Democratic Primaries

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,373 posts) Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:27 PM Mar 2020

Votes, not donations, are what determine elections

By Froma Harrop / syndicated columnist

If Bernie Sanders were amassing a nearly insurmountable lead in the delegate counts, I have little doubt that he would be saying to Joe Biden: “Democrats have spoken. Time to drop out and help the team.”

But doing what he expects of others is not Bernie’s way. As in the past, he can stay in, waving the implied threat that not adopting his program might cause his base to stay home in November. The impolite word is “extortion,” which Sanders launders with baloney claims that he is, somehow, actually winning.

My favorite is “We are winning the generational debate.” Sanders said this right after Joe Biden crushed him in Super Tuesday II. Sanders had just lost his working-class firewall of Michigan, plus Missouri, Mississippi, Idaho and even Sanders-friendly Washington. (He won only North Dakota.)

By “generational debate,” Sanders meant he was prevailing among younger voters, which is true. But he is apparently not doing well among young nonvoters, who, contrary to the campaign’s claims, are not showing up in vast numbers to support him.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/harrop-votes-not-donations-are-what-determine-elections/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Votes, not donations, are what determine elections (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP

Votes, not donations, are what determine elections DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #1

Okay Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #2

... William769 Mar 2020 #3

What? DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #4

Just asking for clarification that's all Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #5

Okay, DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #7

.. Cha Mar 2020 #11

His followers can donate often, but they can only vote ONCE... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #6

K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #8

K&R betsuni Mar 2020 #9

"He won only North Dakota" -- a caucus as it turns out. nt ucrdem Mar 2020 #10

Every election cycle, this has to be explained again and again. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #12

DENVERPOPS

(9,967 posts)

1. Votes, not donations, are what determine elections

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:45 PM

Mar 2020

Hardly YMBL....... as specifically pointed out by another Tyrant in past history:

"You don't need to have the voters, you only need to have those COUNTING the votes."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,373 posts)

2. Okay

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:47 PM

Mar 2020

Are you accusing the DNC of doing such or are you just going off on a tangent?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

William769

(55,830 posts)

3. ...

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:50 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DENVERPOPS

(9,967 posts)

4. What?

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:41 PM

Mar 2020

I was merely pointing out that neither donations or votes truly matter in the current state of things........and haven't since 2000.

Florida in 2000, and Ohio in 2004 are perfect examples............It is purely who COUNTS the votes that is what matters......

my statement had nothing to do with the DNC, where did you come up with that YMBL?????????????????/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,373 posts)

5. Just asking for clarification that's all

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:50 PM

Mar 2020

I'll accept your word.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DENVERPOPS

(9,967 posts)

7. Okay,

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:03 PM

Mar 2020

You are back on my good side YMBL....I have always liked your stuff......

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(305,440 posts)

11. ..

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:59 AM

Mar 2020

StaySafe, DENVEROPS!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

6. His followers can donate often, but they can only vote ONCE...

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:54 PM

Mar 2020

His followers can donate often, but they can only vote ONCE (assuming they've bothered to register and assuming they don't have anything else going on that day that's more important).

All I'm saying is... it's a documented fact that Bernie's loudest supporters are unreliable at the voting booth. They'll attend a rally that has a "musical guest", but when it comes to standing in a line to vote, they lose interest, or they simply aren't motivated enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)

8. K&R

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:04 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(27,258 posts)

9. K&R

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:16 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)

10. "He won only North Dakota" -- a caucus as it turns out. nt

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:20 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)

12. Every election cycle, this has to be explained again and again.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:13 AM

Mar 2020

People counting yard signs. People counting rally crowd sizes. People counting donations. People anticipating a large swath of young voters or a silent, hidden 'progressive' majority who will emerge. As if these is really indicative of who will eventually get the most votes. It seldom is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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