and plans that are passable.

Jesus H Christ on a bouncing pogo-stick.

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

Or do you imagine this is an original thought with Sanders?

Nigh on seventy years ago Mr. Truman attempted to proceed to this goal. The political forces opposed to it could not be overcome. The effort was renewed by Sen. Kennedy, and by Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. President Obama managed to take a good stride towards the goal. Democratic office-holders continue to work towards it.

Why are we supposed to come over all a'flutter because Sanders has disgorged yet another platitude? He has been sputtering about this for some time, and achieved nothing in particular towards its fruition. The only reasonable response to comments like this from Sanders is to treat them as the mere noise they are. They signify less than nothing.



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

Go ahead and bash Bernie some more. Other people are trying to help the country.

He has nothing anyone would regard as substantive legislative achievement. He talks, and he preens on his commitment to principles, and that is about all. The show has grown old and very, very tired.




"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

We are so screwed.

For what does 'it' stand?

Look it up wordsmith.

Any particular grammarian you have in mind?



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

I see no point in arguing with you....

"I'm going home now. Someone get me some frogs and some bourbon."

Daydream away

So, why hasn't Bernie dropped out of the primary? And why are Bernie's surrogates still pounding Biden for his old Senate votes?

PuffedMica

By your own words:

That is possible...Sanders...doesn't deal in reality.

He talks and talks.

It seems to be something of a hobby for the man, to make various pious noises in tones which are calculated to suggest no one else has ever said anything so radically progressive as what has just now left his mouth. Generally the things he says are not just trite, but reekily ancient, dating back decades. To all appearances, the man really has not had a new thought since about 1980, at the latest.



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

Bernie would do well to return to Washington and do the job he was elected to do.

And it is worth pointing out that 'MediCare for All' is in essence just a sales slogan. The idea is that, because people are mostly satisfied with Medicare, using that name for a program of national health insurance will lend that established goodwill to the proposed reform.

But people ought not make the mistake of thinking Medicare is free. Premiums are paid out of Social Security checks by withholding, just as taxes are drawn from salary checks. These go towards the basic government insurance, which many find necessary to augment by private policies taken on in addition, and at additional cost. If the program were extended to all ages and conditions, monies would have to be collected.

I agree the total would be less than the sums currently paid to private insurers as premiums, but they would still be substantial, and many would still desire and seek additional private insurance. Not even MedicAid is free --- if you know someone who is on SSI or disability, you will find a premium for MedicAid is deducted from the check.



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

from paper to steam engines to light bulbs to airplanes to telephones to transistors to integrated circuits came from and only from Bernie.

Even Sliced Bread!

could have the coverage I have. I’m on SSDI and I have Medicare as a primary with Medicaid as a secondary. I pay nothing for doctors, hospital stays, surgeries, and medications. Not one cent. That’s what I wish for everyone in this country. I don’t know how much it would cost, though.

In the meantime, let’s work to get Biden elected so that the ACA can be expanded with a robust public option added.

Medicare for All would be grand. But where are the votes? I need to see a political path to it. In the meantime, expanding Obamacare vs. attempting to strike it down in court is a nobrainer decision.

Universal health coverage is a goal.
M4A is one possible implementation.
Every country with universal coverage has a different way of doing it.
We need to move towards it in a way that is politically feasible for our country.

It seems to me the Affordable Care Act is a good beginning, and ought to be improved, and can be improved. At least assuming we can break the Republican majority in the Senate.

Other Democrats from Harry S. Truman to LBJ to Ted Kennedy to Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton to Barack Obama have said the same thing.

Why is Bernie wasting bandwidth?

by people who don't even think we have a right to clean air and water.

I don't know anyone here who thinks that. Do you?

In a decade.

"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven."

Get right down to the bottom of it, there really is not much more to Sanders' ambitions than that. If the people do not receive from the hand of 'Bernie' exactly what 'Bernie' knows the people need, the people must go without any aid at all, in punishment for rejecting 'Bernie'....


"The thing boils down to asserting no bread is better than half a loaf."