Democratic Primaries
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(Yes, I support Bernies policies and see our future going in that direction - but if Biden is our candidate I want him to win.)
Yesterday, Joe appeared with Nicolle Wallace, both broadcasting from their basements. As always, Joe was kind, empathetic and an all around good guy.
Where he missed an opportunity is when he said he just doesnt get Trump. Someone on the campaign needs to follow the experts who do get Trump - @BandyXLee1 and @duty2warn for a start - and craft a few lines that Joe can use to help educate voters about the dangers we continue to face with Trump in office.
Its not Joes place to diagnose, but he can help people connect the dots by translating the insights of experts into descriptive language like mentioning a drive to put profits over people, a need to make everything about himself, not about the people, having a cruel streak, etc. etc.
Everybody needs to understand that Trump wont change because he cant change - we have to get real about the way we speak about the problem - especially the media and the candidates who want to lead our country out of this dark place.
Dems need to get Trump, in more ways than one. Our country depends on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)rather than going after Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
polichick
(37,625 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Biden is doing a fine job...check out some of his commercials.
The deflection is by the Bern and his surrogates: if they REALLY wanted to "get Trump", they'd support Biden, not tear him down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
polichick
(37,625 posts)in describing Trump.
Bernie has the right to run.
I voted for Bernie but also want Joe to win if he is our candidate.
This is an important issue - the Biden campaign would be smart to get someone on it.
Deflections like yours dont help.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
fallout87
(819 posts)I haven't seen him on any noteworthy appearances for at least a week.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Joe's been on The View etc and making commercials etc
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(47,018 posts)and when Trump has hung himself out to dry, after Easter in the rolling nationwide fallout from Trump's failed policies, that will be a gotcha moment when serious cases can begin to be built. I'd also say build a case, but save your best ammo for the October home stretch, then kick it into high gear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Lifting part of a sentence from about 20 minutes isn't very fair. What happened just before and just after he said "he just doesn't get trump"?
I think he did a great job yesterday afternoon - on Nicole Wallace's show and with Jake Tapper on CNN a little early. His appearance on The View was a little awkward because they didn't have the sound well synched.
This is all a new way of "campaigning", it'll get better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,822 posts)his actions. Cruel, stupid, entitled, and dangerous frat boy mentality is something she would have dealt with every semester.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...."I don't get why he doesn't realize what he's doing".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(18,924 posts)And he was coughing and using his hand. He was told to use his elbow. He said Im by myself no need.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/politics/2020/03/24/joe-biden-cough-jake-tapper-lead-vpx-sot.cnn
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....bizarre with all the minute, picayune criticisms of Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(23,627 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fallout87
(819 posts)He's been absent in these dark times. One would even forget we have a primary going.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(11,148 posts)Besides, he, like everyone else still running, has "a fucking global crisis to deal with".
Do you find anything wrong with that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)And we don't have a primary going; we have a presumptive nominee, and a candidate with no chance that refuses to quit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fallout87
(819 posts)Joe Biden Gaffe Alert: Stuns The View By Claiming Coronavirus Cure Will Make The Problem Worse
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...from his job an responsibilities.
Except for his "round table" and rock concert on Sunday night (from Vermont, when the Senate was in session in Washington), Sanders hadn't been seen since Wednesday afternoon.
With respect to Sanders, to quote you about Biden, "One would even forget we have a primary going."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)The real world is a nice place and I like living in the real world
BTW how is sanders magical voter revolution doing?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)some just don't care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,148 posts)Perhaps a link to the conversation.
Because I have doubts that his "I don't get Trump" comment has to do with Trump's "drive to put profits over people", etc. Everybody gets it, even Trump's supporters. This kind of selfish darwinian not giving a fuck about anyone but themselves is exactly what appeals to them. I doubt that repeating the obvious will do Biden any good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)That's why it wasn't provided. Biden's intent with the statement was clear, and OP's interpretation of same is laughable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)That's where he has to try to win swing voters as well as Democrats. To do that he has to avoid disparaging comments about Trump or Trump voters. I doubt he'll succeed 100%, knowing Joe, but it's good to see that he's making an effort.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,943 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:22 PM - Edit history (1)
the message is Trump is failing. His comment that he doesn't get Trump is in the context of why is Trump not doing what is needed. People listening can fill in their own reasons whether ideological or just that he is incompetent.
Biden leaves the focus on his sadness that Trump is failing the country in its hour of need. That is a strong message. Probably as strong as he can get given that he does not want anyone to be able to argue that he made Trump succeeding less likely by attacking him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)What you suggested is the job of surrogates and the VP nominee
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)I wouldn't presume to tell him how he should deliver his ideas, frankly.
I'll just let him figure out how he wants to do that.
Remember, he sometimes says "That's Malarkey." He sometimes says things quite bluntly. Some people fault him for that, too.
Let him sell himself in his own way. He's doing OK with that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden