Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSenator Sanders could stand to take a lesson from Senator Warren on the Coronavirus bill vote
Warren didn't sit it out and avoid taking action on the first vote, despite the fact that it wasn't everything that she wanted it to be, because we need action and leadership from Democrats NOW. She didn't just roll over and vote yes or go AWOL on the vote for the first version, and she didn't make perfect the enemy of doable.
She showed up and did her damn job during an emergency, and then explained why she voted for the package that was not all that Democrats wanted and what she's doing moving forward.
This is what Presidential looks like:
She also didn't take credit for single-handedly "influencing GOP senators" or work on the bill that she didn't actually do....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)He was there last night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,903 posts)what other reasonable excuse could he have had for not showing up until now?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
But he was there last night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He came in after all that.
Warren rolled her sleeves up and got to work while Bernie was out of pocket.
That is the point of the OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)That he single-handedly saw off an attempt by several Republican Senators to alter the bill to limit assistance to unemployed people. This is nonesense, and such a claim is a deliberate lie. Worse, it is a lie which only the naive and ignorant can be expected to swallow. This is the measure of what 'Bernie' thinks of his supporters, and of the public at large. There is no behavior more despicable in an intelligent man than an attempt to mislead to his own profit the ignorant and naive and the foolish.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And took credit for that which was not his work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)That characterization is a shabby lie, which depends on the ignorance and naivete of his intended audience for its self-aggrandizing effect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)negotiations that he had no part of? That is a central issue that needs to be addressed by Sanders supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)without editorializing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Several people have challenged you to speak on the ethics of the Sanders campaign taking credit for work that he didn't do, you quickly took a pass every single time.
Again, speak on the Sanders campaign's lie about his role in getting maximized employment benefits for workers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Just noted that he was there and voted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)nothing to do with. You have repeatedly been given a chance to speak on the morality of that, you have passed every time - that speaks volumes to anyone that notices your decision, and it clearly is a thought-out decision, IMO, it simply can't be anything else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)is mine to share or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)I hear AOC won't sign on and that is why it might not be unanimous and might take longer than it should. This is embarrassing for the house not to be unanimous. Not a good look for AOC. Hell, I will send money to her primary challenger if she does this. This is an national emergency and it will be interesting to see if she can put national interest above ideology. The Democrat AOC took down would have worked hard to make the bill good for working people and then voted for the compromise. Time will tell. She is facing a primary challenge and should consider that before voting for or against the rescue bill.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)need a stimulus package.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)virus is vanquished to get them back on their feet...and in the meantime...dirty donnie needs to get medical supplies to New York hospitals...I saw on TV medical workers yelling out of the windows of their cars..."we need medical supplies'. What the hell is going on with the Feds and idiot Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)if AOC doesnt end up signing this. I could be wrong, and often am, but shes usually complains a little and then gets on board. Well see, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)However, she makes it impossible for it to be unanimous if she plans to object. The House should vote unanimously on the rescue bill...it is embarrassing for any Democrat to cause a delay of an entire day because some of our members (don't know if there are others) won't sign on to a bill to help millions who are hurting because of the virus. The Senate voted unanimously.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)And vote or she will hold the bill up.Pelosi is suggesting a voice vote so all members will not have to come back. Who is right here? She is in the Bernie Ad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)but herself if she does this. I am doubling my money to the best primary candidate...hell, I know that area, I will make calls!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The others are well to the right of her. Velazquez is a proven progressive.
But, I must admit that if it looks like Velazquez and AOC will split the progressive vote so badly that one of the three more right people slip through to win, then people need to swallow hard and support AOC so that she wins the primary. Afterward, we can see whether she changes and becomes more realistic, if she doesn't, a more organized democratic primary effort can be waged against her in a couple years, hopefully fielding only proven progressive democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,760 posts)No wonder BS has been so ineffective as a Senator. He thinks alll he needs to do is grandstand from afar, then occasionally show up to vote. This is why he has only managed to pass 2 or 3 bills that he introduced even though he has been in Congress since 1991 and renaming post offices really should not count.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,126 posts)"I won't block vital aid but tomorrow we get back up and continue the fight."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)gets up the next morning and resumes the fight for working folks...this is why she was my second choice in the primary. I like both her and Biden...it was a matter of the Blue Wall states for me. I thought Biden has a better chance to win those states...and also the AA vote...but damn she is great in so many ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)I love Warren and my positions align with her but Ive always supported Biden because hes the one that can trounce Trump. Plus, hes a nice and compassionate man.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)It is rare for me to 'love' politicians...I like many but I just don't have' fandom' in my nature. This is why I have no understand of what some call' Bernie bros'. If Biden didn't win the primary, I would throw my support behind whoever the nominee was.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)collapsed. One has to wonder with his hatred of Wall Street if he thinks this would have been a good thing. That is the problem with Sanders and the revolution. Revolutionaries tear it down and then attempt to rebuild it...and mostly don't succeed in the rebuilding part.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,512 posts)And here's Bernie, taking credit for just showing up for one vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,666 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(8,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LudwigPastorius
(10,828 posts)If she's not the next Vice President, should she be the Secretary of Commerce or Labor?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)Who for AG?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)Now, where do we put Cuomo?
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)stay Governor of New York.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)You hear all those names Trump read off that did not have diddly squat to do with what is happening in the world.? CNN cut them off, MSNBC still has Pence on.
Trump invited everyone to come see the Medical ship that os coming in. He is going to welcome the ship. Any reason to get that plane flying again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(94,702 posts)Elizabeth Warren is wonderful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)to work on the bill or negotiate with the other Senators. Others worked hard to limit the R's influence and to achieve the best possible result given all the circumstances.
The last few days couldn't have shown better how right Warren was with her 2 words summary about BS: Massive...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,313 posts)We are in the midst of an emergency not seen by most of us in our lifetimes. The time is now to come together and stop the bashing. And my message applies equally to any Bernie supporter. We all need to stop it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
paleotn
(19,206 posts)But McTurtle and Munchkin caved far, far more than expected. Funny thing is, a lot of Donnie's business interests are in the most affected category, yet he explicitly gets no money. Ha!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)And Manchin stood up to MItch and his greed. Manchin was chosen to inform him.
I wondered why, after 2 rages Mitch went after Joe. Now we know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,823 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)ehrnst!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden