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Draw your own conclusions.

He can shout it from the mountain every single day as far as I’m concerned.

Reminders of what we have lost are appropriate at all times.

Being Vice President is part of his priceless resume.. another thing that should be obvious.

Soon you will be digging yourself a hole....



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

Cooperation and Democratic teamwork!

Oh Yeah!

It could be that you meant well and the context is missing but when you post a thread, you should be there to answer questions if clarifications are needed. Hit and run threads are just annoying and serve no purpose on a discussion forum.
But it almost sounds like these typical things that start with an assumption (Biden depends on Obama and cannot do it alone) without any basis and then we pretend that this is a fact and argue needlessly about a scenario that isn't reality.

And to think just a month ago I was likely Biden’s biggest defender. My opinion of him hasn’t changed, he is the best that we have, but he ain’t perfect, yet light years ahead of what is there now.

But I don't get what's to worry about. In 2008, Obama probably talked with others as well about potential VP picks. It doesn't mean Biden is dependent on Obama or that he won't be the one making the final decision. The way he revealed that he talked about this with Obama, it even might not have been the reason why they had a conversation, it might have just come up.

....like Lincoln’s cabinet of rivals, he needed to hear both sides of an issue, then weigh his decision, my opinion the wisest of leaders.
Throughout this primary Joe has used his position as Obama’s VP as a crutch for Black support, or on the economy of being a “Obama - Biden Democrat” when Bernie touted Democratic Socialism. When his voting record was BETTER for unions and workers rights than Obama’s while senators.
He is more than strong enough to run on his record and because he isn’t scripted,?he will garner more blue collar support from Trump, but he has got to To put himself on the stump and not anyone else.

Former Presidents often communicate with their successors, irrespective of their party, with the exception of the shit for brains person now living in the White House and actively destroying our country.

Only a fool relies solely on himself or herself.

the reason Obama picked Joe as his running mate is he thought Joe could help him. I really don’t think Joe needs help picking a running mate. He knows what he’s doing. Don’t get me wrong, I voted for Obama twice and miss his leadership, intelligence, and calm demeanor. Oh how I miss that man.

No shortage of reactionary opinions with D’s here, I always thought the GOP had an exclusive on those.

I admire leaders who consult qualified others and listen to them.

24. Seeking the the opinion of others is wise
....like Lincoln’s cabinet of rivals, he needed to hear both sides of an issue, then weigh his decision, my opinion the wisest of leaders.
Throughout this primary Joe has used his position as Obama’s VP as a crutch for Black support, or on the economy of being a “Obama - Biden Democrat” when Bernie touted Democratic Socialism. When his voting record was BETTER for unions and workers rights than Obama’s while senators.
He is more than strong enough to run on his record and because he isn’t scripted,?he will garner more blue collar support from Trump, but he has got to To put himself on the stump and not anyone else.

of anything, and not convincing.

Everything else here is an opinion, including your own.

You seem awfully sensitive to anyone's challenging your opinion.

The article to which you linked says NOTHING about requiring approval as opposed to seeking input, nor does it say anything that could be construed as using Obama "as a crutch."

Enjoy your stay.

I really dont know what kind of support you need
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-running-mate-obama-democrat-primaries-2020-election-a9418171.html

this election. Joe Biden has had a long and distinguished career of his own and referring to the better days of the Obama years is likely to play better with the voters than Donnie’s erratic, incompetent, malevolent, Effing-up-the-works style of (non) governance.

My point (which seemingly missed its mark) was Joe Doesn’t Need it. He has a very admirable record on his own, I even favored Joe when he ran against the Field against Hilary and Obama. He is more genuine to the common man that will pull in the Blue collar vote (which used to be the democratic base) the black vote, LGBTQ....he isn’t scripted or polished and I believe scares team Trump more than anything else.

Really? Huh.

Like everything on here, it is an opinion