I really can't see him trying to run again in 8 years in opposition to VP Harris' bid to become President.


Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!

this cycle was both surprising and ill-advised. It could well be that he is hanging on in there because he knows that's it for him. Joe is doing the right thing in moving on.

They are all in on a mission and it's not to win.

He feels he is entitled to the nomination.

As do many of his faithful followers. "It's his turn" or something, seems to be the general sentiment. But, that's not how it works.

who does it remind you of? I think he feels entitled to it as well.

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I have every reason to believe that the vast majority of Bernie’s followers are more attracted to his policies than they are to Bernie, himself. Give us Democratic control of the Senate and eliminate the filibuster. If we can do these two things, Joe Biden can be our new FDR, and Bernie (while deserving credit for pushing us to the left) will be little more than a memory.

-Laelth

He made the movement all about him. Rather than pushing for Universal healthcare he only pushed for his specific solution M4All even after seeing it lacked the support to ever become a reality. Rather than making Democratic Socialism more mainstream he has made it more of a fringe movement. Him being unable to rally the young to the polls as part of his "revolution" should have been embarrassing for him but yet he persists and refuses to leave the stage.

People who knew him in Vermont back when he was a congressman stated that he had no interest in endorsing any other progressives candidates unless it would benefit his interests.

most of his saner rational progressives will rejoin the conservatives, moderates and run-of-the-mill liberals and work within the party to help influence and shape policy. The few % remaining that refuse to do so can go pound sand(ers).

(Which really is his base)

empty and forgotten, chances wasted due to lack of leadership

He has caused enough damage. One can only hope that when he finally concedes and goes away, that he takes the toxicity and division with him that he infected the Democratic Party with and that the people he chose to lead his campaign will be recognized for who they are: Lowlifes who don't care about the party and its principles or even the policies their candidate stands for.
His policy ideas will live on without being represented by him and many existed before him. His problem isn't that he is an ideologue, it's the belief that only he can be the one to implement them.

A lot of younger leaders were inspired by the idea of Bernie in 2016 and probably bought into the decades long efforts to portray Hillary Clinton as conservative or corrupt. Many of these folks ran on a progressive platform. However, when they actually had to deal with Bernie, they got burned. Beto O'Rourke at one time tried to fashion himself as a Bernie protege. However, after he started looking like he might cut into Bernie's youth support, Bernie's campaign smeared him. Not surprisingly, Beto O'Rourke endorsed Biden.

Likewise, you have AOC who Bernie heavily leaned on as a surrogate. However, when she tried to actually do her own job representing her constituents, Bernie's campaign started to leak negative stories about her suggesting that she let Bernie down:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-bernie-sanders-campaign-rallies_n_5e6ade51c5b6bd8156f44356

I have never taken sanders seriously as a candidate due to sanders complete and utter lack of legislative accomplishments. sanders has not been able to get his fellow Democratic members of Congress to back his agenda and that is not going to change. As I understand it, sanders is now relying on a magical voter revolution to convince republicans to be reasonable. sanders has no magical voter revolution or movement backing him up. sanders has a cap of around 30% of the Democratic voters and that does not constitute a movement or revolution

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How come no one ever brings her up? She's pretty hard-left, and is still in office.

And not even a state official. She'll have to find a venue bigger than Seattle before she can claim that mantle.

There is only dissatisfaction. Bernie is the leader of the dissatisfied. Or at least of some of them.

... and instead try to inflict as much damage as possible (for punishment? as retribution? revenge?) against those whom they believe are the cause of their problems.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/malcontent

is not uniform in any way. It includes malcontents from every corner of the political spectrum. From anarchists to extreme libertarians, his followers are united in only one way - they are discontented with the entire society that makes up the United States. So, it's no wonder than when Sanders fares poorly in elections, it is largely because his supporters simply do not participate in elections. They see elections a part of the broken system they want to disappear.

If they vote at all when Sanders is not on the ballot, they vote to disrupt the process. That is why Jill Stein and Gary Johnson got as many votes as they did in three hugely important states. Those votes came from the discontented.

Normally, they don't make up enough of the electorate to actually affect outcomes, but in 2016, they did affect the outcome, leading to the disaster that is the Trump administration.

Many of Sanders' supporters don't really support the Senator from Vermont. They support chaos. We see some such discontented people here at times, too.

Although, there will be a fight over who gets the fundraising mailing list between a few people. That list would be a gold mine to sell memorabilia, books etc. and/or to raise more money from the donors who are easy to persuade of Sanders' greatness.

a peachy keen idea. I welcome a competently run government based on fairness and progressive principals. That’s what we will have in a Biden presidency.

Bernie’s utopian dream sounds seductive, but that’s how populists always campaign, brothers and sisters.

The progressive movement will move forward under Biden. Bernie would be so divisive with daily tweets from Nina Turner and David Sirota attacking people who are not doctrinaire socialists.