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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:12 PM Mar 2020

Jonathan Chait: "Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him?"

From the moment he announced his candidacy, Joe Biden led in polls of Democratic primary voters. His lead endured through months of bad press and worse debate performances. He lost his national lead very briefly, after crushing defeats in two overwhelmingly white states — one of them a low-turnout caucus — only to regain it after African-Americans voted for the first time in large numbers, at which point he has led by commanding margins.

The Bernie Sanders movement has mostly accepted the finality of Biden’s victory. What it hasn’t come to terms with is its causes. The Sanders campaign and many of its enthusiasts continue to see Biden’s victory as either a fluke or a plot.

Sanders advisers told the New York Times they believed they had been on the precipice of sweeping to victory on Super Tuesday, until Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg dropped out and endorsed Biden. Ben Tulchin, a Sanders pollster, claimed the candidate was “on the brink of winning until the most unprecedented event in the history of presidential primaries occurred.”

It is hardly unprecedented for the fifth- and sixth-place candidates to drop out of a race after four primaries. Yet Sanders himself has fixated on this decision as evidence of an Establishment conspiracy. Appearing on ABC’s This Week several days later, he described it as “the power of the Establishment to force Amy Klobuchar, who had worked so hard, Pete Buttigieg, who had really worked extremely hard as well, out of the race.”

From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Jonathan Chait: "Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him?" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Mar 2020 OP
It's a very fine line between being on the brink Harker Mar 2020 #1
Because we must be the "establishment" he keeps talking about Zambero Mar 2020 #2
Rejection hurts RandySF Mar 2020 #3
Mr. Sanders, please drop out and be quiet. nt centrarchus Mar 2020 #4
Delusion showblue22 Mar 2020 #5
And he was so sure.. Cha Mar 2020 #19
Cocky, wasn't he? showblue22 Mar 2020 #22
Exactly.. not into unifying when he was so sure Cha Mar 2020 #23
Old Bolsheviks know bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #6
Maybe next time, try running as a Republican world wide wally Mar 2020 #7
Winner! LakeArenal Mar 2020 #29
If he can't accept defeat gracefully, then that confirms to me that he... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #8
+1000 Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #10
As I have said before, this is last shot at relevance and history... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #9
Bernie's new chant, "One more house! One more house!" n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #11
maybe he should simply respect democratic voters subana Mar 2020 #12
Kick mcar Mar 2020 #13
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #14
Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #15
This Is The Head Shot, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #16
Him, not us. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #17
Exactly! Cha Mar 2020 #20
Goodness... showblue22 Mar 2020 #25
E gods with that Stein Voter Pusher.. I couldn't finish that.. west's Gaslighting Cha Mar 2020 #27
Bernie's 800 lb ego is sitting on his 1/4 pound humility NCProgressive Mar 2020 #18
A powerful graphic in words. Please spread that around online. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #24
But We Did "Stop" him. Cha Mar 2020 #21
That's what I was thinking. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #30
And, he's mad. Cha Mar 2020 #31
But .. it was not the establishment that stopped him .. you, me and voters did by the millions. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #32
Yes.. you're right it was Millions of Dem Voters who stopped Cha Mar 2020 #33
The primary is over. saidsimplesimon Mar 2020 #26
No worries, saidsimplesimon Mar 2020 #28
He despises Democrats. He tried to overset our sovereignty Hortensis Mar 2020 #34
+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #35
Kick Cha Mar 2020 #36
 

Harker

(14,953 posts)
1. It's a very fine line between being on the brink
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020

and brinkmanship.

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Zambero

(9,766 posts)
2. Because we must be the "establishment" he keeps talking about
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020

I believe that point has already been established!

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centrarchus

(62 posts)
4. Mr. Sanders, please drop out and be quiet. nt
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
5. Delusion
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:24 PM
Mar 2020

He can't fathom anyone not being in love with him. They must be corporate tools.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
22. Cocky, wasn't he?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

Even when he thought he was winning there was no sign he was interested in unifying the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
23. Exactly.. not into unifying when he was so sure
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020

he was going to win with 30% coalition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(47,018 posts)
6. Old Bolsheviks know
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:32 PM
Mar 2020

this was their high water mark that will never be seen again. They're having trouble letting go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

world wide wally

(21,830 posts)
7. Maybe next time, try running as a Republican
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. If he can't accept defeat gracefully, then that confirms to me that he...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

If he can't accept defeat gracefully, then that confirms to me that he would not have been a good president. These are the fundamental skills that a true leader possesses. A willingness to change, to admit defeat, to treat others with respect, to be able to accept the results of an election, to be willing to share, compromise, find common interests and mutual benefit.

The behavior we're seeing now is NOT what one expects to see from a true leader and a true statesman. History will not be kind to Bernie Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. As I have said before, this is last shot at relevance and history...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:43 PM
Mar 2020

He knows he can't run again in '24. Shit, he knows the odds are against him even being alive in four years.

Most politicians instinctively know when to drop out and and then align with the leader. It's how they got where they are and how not to drop lower. Note the earlier dropouts refused to endorse anyone until they saw how the winds are blowing. Then they know how to maximize their resources for the win. And, just coincidentally, maximize their connection with the presumed winner.

Not Bernie, though. Delusional might be the word. It also helps explain his abysmal record as a Congressman and Senator.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
11. Bernie's new chant, "One more house! One more house!" n/t
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:45 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

subana

(586 posts)
12. maybe he should simply respect democratic voters
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:55 PM
Mar 2020

we all know that if something happens that Bernie is never to blame, he claims the establishment is against him!

Mostly I think Bernie doesn't like democrats & the voters have said they don't like him either! I don't care when he ends this campaign but when he does, I hope he stays out of our primaries for good! It is simply a waste of time to have to deal with his crap every 4 years!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
16. This Is The Head Shot, Sir
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020


"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
27. E gods with that Stein Voter Pusher.. I couldn't finish that.. west's Gaslighting
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:14 PM
Mar 2020

sickens me. sigh.

But thanks for that.. 'cause it just shows how divisive they are.

P.S. I can't understand why the "establishment" can't stand them.. that's a Real Mystery!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
18. Bernie's 800 lb ego is sitting on his 1/4 pound humility
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. A powerful graphic in words. Please spread that around online. nt
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,813 posts)
30. That's what I was thinking.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:20 PM
Mar 2020

Great minds....❤️

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
31. And, he's mad.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:23 PM
Mar 2020

❤️Gracias, LA! StaySafe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
32. But .. it was not the establishment that stopped him .. you, me and voters did by the millions.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
33. Yes.. you're right it was Millions of Dem Voters who stopped
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

him in SC and all 3 of those Super Spectacular Tuesdays.

But I feel when he insults the "Dem Establishment" he is insulting us all.

I stand with the Dem Establishment like John Lewis, Planned Parenthood, Nancy Pelosi.. all of them!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
28. No worries,
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:18 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie is history, imo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. He despises Democrats. He tried to overset our sovereignty
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:57 AM
Mar 2020

to take the nomination before. Would a person like this care that Democrats don't want him or consider it validation of his contempt? Anyway, he doesn't want us either. He wants our power.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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