Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCuomo needs to be Biden's VP pick!
This pandemic has changed everything in two weeks!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatrickforO
(15,097 posts)As to Cuomo, I wish Trump would just turn over the whole management of this thing to Cuomo. We'd be in good hands, for sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)was on Maddow's show last night. Dude named General Semonite...heads up the Army Corps of Engineers. Real straight-shooter can-do type...get my boys in there and we'll make it better as best and as fast as we can. Not this constant Trump clueless clusterfuck we got going.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/army-corps-of-engineers-gives-options-to-states-facing-covid-crush-81265733635
Semonite reminds me a lot of General Honore. You guys remember when Katrina hit New Orleans and Dubya was running around saying "you're doin' a heckava job, Brownie!" when that asshole had no idea WTF he was doing while tons of people were floundering and dying? And this Honore guy comes in and starts getting shit done on Day 1.
http://generalhonore.com/
Yeah, Semonite is like that. We spend damn near a trillion dollars every year on our military...let's put them to work in this crisis instead of sticking them in the desert along the border throwing rocks at cacti while waiting for the hordes of rapist Mexicans to invade the US.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gibraltar72
(7,625 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(49,611 posts)Joe is committed to picking a qualified woman. I seriously doubt he will change his mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,855 posts)Cuomo is only 62, and can run once the next 8 years (Biden's admin of course) is over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,850 posts)Just because he's a good crisis manager doesn't mean he's be a good president or even candidate. Think of Guiliani as an example. I think Cuomo would fail utterly in a Dem primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,266 posts)....just cuz someone actually does their job they arent necessarily a good prez..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(33,422 posts)You may think Americans are in love with voting for people who are well past social security age for president. They are not. They have no choice this time but it will not become a pattern.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)If that is the level knowledge of you young
voters, we are in trouble.
Try googling before you spout.
Edit to add: Dumb idea anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(33,422 posts)That would make him 70, well past SS age.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Crazy premise to begin with.
If you wont vote for someone 70 you are an ageist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(33,422 posts)Try it on someone else. As I said we have no choice this time. That will not always be the case.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Basing a vote on age is ageist. Whether you say so or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(33,422 posts)Please name a successful president in their 70s. In the last hundred years the Democratic party has only been successful in electing presidents when they have been under 55. (I am not considering Johnson and Truman who came to office through death) That is a fact whether you like it or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)Everyone in this election is over 70.
So whats your point at all.
We left this too old too white too male crap at the door months ago.
Joe is going to be president. Hes going to be a good and successful one
Your ageism is a moot point.
I may be naive but at least I am aware that the next president is going to be older than you want. Either you deal with it or you dont. But thats the reality and not just my reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Frances
(8,577 posts)By the way, has anyone polled New York, Washington state, and California on Trumps response to coronavirus?
Its easy to say Trump is doing well if your state hasnt been hit
On the other hand, an honest poll in these states would mean Trump would do even less to help
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bucky
(55,334 posts)We're fighting to save them too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)Biden has already committed to choosing a woman, and Cuomo is needed where he is now. Don't take him away from New York. It's so ridiculous - every time some politician (or celebrity, e.g., Oprah) is observed to be doing something with unusual competence or they made an inspiring speech or some damn thing, people go "OMG, he/she should run for president (or running mate)!" No, FFS. We have an abundance of great candidates already.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lastlib
(24,740 posts)He has certainly shown good leadership and crisis-management skills, so he'd be a good fit for a high position. But electorally, he doesn't bring much to a D-ticket that would attract the voters we need in November. (I'm thinking swing voters in WI, MI, PA, OH, FL; women, Latinos, and African-Americans.) But I'm glad he's in our party, and we will need him for the foreseeable future!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bucky
(55,334 posts)That's not the person he is. We're going to be fighting this virus all through next year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)Jeez! It could be Franklin Roosevelt or Abraham Lincoln - and you'd be dismissing them because of their race and gender!
DO YOU REALLY NOT SEE THAT IS WRONG and that it is DISCRIMINATION?!
Is the point to oust Trump - or is to prove we can get the first female Vice-President?!
Lose this election and the country is lost!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(57,109 posts)be about it instead of just giving it lip service. Joe would not be were he is without the support of black voters. There are several qualified candidates.
Cuomo is doing a fabulous job were he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)It's about time women and PoC had a shot at the ticket, and there are plenty who are qualified.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
npk
(3,701 posts)Biden is on the right track. He has already said he is looking at making a woman and likely a woman of color his VP. As others have said there are many well qualified candidates that fit that mold and many are just as qualified if not more so than Cuomo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
npk
(3,701 posts)Trump has set the bar so low, that another politician or well known voice tying two coherent sentences together becomes "presidential". Not so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(25,210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)So many more women of color better qualified.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FailureToCommunicate
(14,310 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And,
thanks for asking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FailureToCommunicate
(14,310 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(25,210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Thekaspervote
(34,411 posts)Not to mention how qualified the choices that have been floated are!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)Hence the lousy poll numbers Harris and Booker (both of whom I like) had with AA voters compared with Biden!
We need to DEFEAT TRUMP!!!
THAT must be the focus!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Badass VP pick she would be too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(135,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Polybius
(17,352 posts)She's not gonna attract any undecideds to the ticket. I like her views and her voting record, but likability is an issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TeamPooka
(25,210 posts)get every Democrat out to vote.
didn't happen last time
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(23,664 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,963 posts)The VP role has little authority to do anything. We're all much better off with him where he is
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,963 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kcr
(15,520 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(38,122 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)the country sick and dying, I think that Joe could be forgiven if he goes back on his promise to choose a woman. (Of course, there are many well qualified women as well.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GoneOffShore
(17,585 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)Governors of New York have long been considered viable Presidential candidates.
Cuomo is the man of the hour.
Haven't you noticed?
Do you really want to WIN back the White House from the crazed orange dictator?!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GoneOffShore
(17,585 posts)And he's a shit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(13,508 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigDemVoter
(4,515 posts)Biden has already promised to choose a woman. He cannot renege on that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dopers_Greed
(2,647 posts)Cuomo is being a real leader during COVID.
But remember that he was HATED by progressives before this.
And having two white men on the ticket is not a good look.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)Like Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
That would be inferior to Liz Cheney and Sara Palin - by your way of thinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dopers_Greed
(2,647 posts)And Democrats would be raked over the coals by the media and progressives for it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Honestly, it about makes me weep, waking up each morning to the disregard and disrespect a mature white man faces in this country. It's just awful. Why, I think I'd give a million bucks to be a black woman. They get all the breaks!
Please just realize what you sound like. It is ridiculous. The man gave his word he would choose a woman. That doesn't mean anyone who thinks he should keep his word thinks Sarah Palin is better than Mr. Roosevelt or Mr. Lincoln, and suggesting anyone thinks it does only makes you look like an idiot at best and at worst like some 'men's rights' type whose mask is slipping. Your position contains the unspoken premise that there's sure to be some white man out there who is better for the job than any woman, and Mr. Biden better find him before he saddles the ticket with somebody who lacks a penis, just for some silly thing like being a man who delivers on a pledge.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jmowreader
(51,361 posts)Vice President Biden has already said he's going to nominate a woman as a running mate. Whitmer is a good, hard-working governor who will rip Donald Trump into itsy-bitsy pieces on a daily basis, and she's a licensed attorney who can help us detrumpify the nation.
She's also young enough to serve eight years in the Oval Office after President Biden term-limits out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and maybe a few other states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)I like Whitmer, but she isn't as ready as Cuomo, and isn't going to excite as many voters -
AND THE POINT IS TO DEFEAT TRUMP, FOR GOD SAKES!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)and that means Biden has to abandon his promise to choose a female VP? Because of a crisis?
Surely, you have to realize how bad the insinuations from such a reasoning are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Cuomo comes from a solid blue state. He wont energize African Americans or Female voters or help attract progressives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)Has been getting rave reviews from women - especially suburban women.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)but they still didnt come out for her in the same numbers that they did for Obama. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tribetime
(6,167 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,722 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(28,194 posts)I suspect he likes being where he is, right now. He can certainly write his ticket if his continues in his leadership role on the CV-19 continues - like I think it will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(92,048 posts)Every time someone steps up and shows leadership on a given day does not mean they should become president or VP.
Give it a break, please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(92,048 posts)I'll be here all week, folks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krawhitham
(4,844 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raine
(30,592 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(147,334 posts)In 2016, some were calling for Oprah to run for President.
Let's not lose sight of the battle, OK?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,266 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BrightKnight
(3,675 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,462 posts)Any day, no contest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maryallen
(2,172 posts)When nobody gets the right number on the first ballot, nominate Cuomo on the second ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided