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Biden accuser's old Twitter account tells a different story (Original Post) Galraedia Mar 2020 OP
What did they have to pay for that asshole's integrity? kysrsoze Mar 2020 #1
I know PatSeg Mar 2020 #2
Grasping at straws maybe Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #3
Can You Imagine If Biden Had Written a Series of Rape Fantasies? TomCADem Mar 2020 #9
Spot on! Rube Icon Mar 2020 #15
Geez. Sanders did not write a series of rape fantasies. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #16
Candidate Sanders: Hitchhiking should be made legal and easier Galraedia Mar 2020 #17
Hitchhiking is legal in most states. But specifically for some more context on Sanders' statement... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #18
Not true...I have read them...suggest you use google. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #28
I just googled. I found nothing to contradict my post. Since you have read them, thesquanderer Mar 2020 #34
If You Seriously Go Through His Writings For The Vermont Freeman, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #36
Russia somehow got to her in 2018 NCProgressive Mar 2020 #4
The most effective and damaging allegations made against public figures often target sop Mar 2020 #5
I had to block a former FB friend over this 47of74 Mar 2020 #6
It's Obviously a Hit Job Being Pushed Online by Bernie Supporters and Bots Indykatie Mar 2020 #8
They're also shaming people for not believing her Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #13
Obama Accuser Larry Sinclair Holds Stupefying Press Conference - Who is Crazier? TomCADem Mar 2020 #7
That Fella Was Quite A Show, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #10
Oh that's right.. I forgot about larry sinclair.. Cha Mar 2020 #11
I wish I knew who paid her. showblue22 Mar 2020 #12
Despicable ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #14
Here's an article in which she praised Putin Promisep Mar 2020 #19
Broken link, here is correct: radius777 Mar 2020 #32
I don't care what they say there is no way I would helpisontheway Mar 2020 #20
He assaulted women the way Al Franken did, by putting his arm on their waist for a picture Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #22
Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #31
People who have been assaulted act in all sorts of ways, some of which can seem contradictory WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #21
I seriously doubt Joe Biden assaulted anyone. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #23
Okay. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #24
Do they change their stories consistently? Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #26
Are you suggesting Biden assaulted anyone......despicable Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #29
No. Victims don't praise their accusers 20 years later Promisep Mar 2020 #33
They also don't say... Galraedia Mar 2020 #35
Biden has Teflon now. Sling that mud and watch it fly away faster than two positive magnetic poles. McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #25
She needs to go away now nt Jarqui Mar 2020 #27
The one being raped is Biden. radius777 Mar 2020 #30
 

kysrsoze

(6,143 posts)
1. What did they have to pay for that asshole's integrity?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:20 PM
Mar 2020

Peoples’ lack of dignity never ceases to amaze me.

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PatSeg

(49,725 posts)
2. I know
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020

I can't even begin to imagine what goes on in the minds of such people. That was disgusting.

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Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
3. Grasping at straws maybe
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

But did she get married?

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TomCADem

(17,760 posts)
9. Can You Imagine If Biden Had Written a Series of Rape Fantasies?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:02 PM
Mar 2020

Or, had went to Soviet Russia for his honeymoon? Or, spoke glowingly of dictators? Yet, BS will insist that he is being treated unfairly.

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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
16. Geez. Sanders did not write a series of rape fantasies.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 01:46 PM
Mar 2020

He wrote one essay about gender norms which began with with a shocking opening to grab reader's attention. It may have been a bad idea, but he did not write a series of rape fantasies. You can read the entire essay here:

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy

it starts about half way down the page.

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Galraedia

(5,176 posts)
17. Candidate Sanders: Hitchhiking should be made legal and easier
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

Noticed that was in the article you linked to and was like wtf? O_o

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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
18. Hitchhiking is legal in most states. But specifically for some more context on Sanders' statement...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

...here's what a New York Times article had to say on the topic back around the same time (1975).

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/10/06/archives/americans-have-turned-their-thumbs-up-on-hitchhiking-despite-laws.html

And on hitchhiking in Vermont these days...

https://hitchwiki.org/en/Vermont

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Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
28. Not true...I have read them...suggest you use google.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:30 PM
Mar 2020
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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
34. I just googled. I found nothing to contradict my post. Since you have read them,
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:06 AM
Mar 2020

(and apparently can also find them via google whereas I cannot), can you please provide a link? Thanks!

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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
36. If You Seriously Go Through His Writings For The Vermont Freeman, Sir
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:19 PM
Mar 2020

You will find all sorts of luscious tit-bits.

My favorite was his declaration that 'the revolution' occurs when a young teenage girl ignores her mother's advice and goes ahead to have sex with her boyfriend.

His choice of 'raped by three men' as a prototypical fantasy of women says a good deal more about 'Bernie' than it does about women. There are plenty of other common fantasies people use to get themselves 'over the edge' on occasion with a familiar partner. Doubtless a few will suggest themselves to you. 'Secret Garden', by Nancy Friday, published not long after this production by 'Bernie' is full of them, and anyone with much experience would at the time have been aware of a range of things women fantasize about, from encounters with another woman to ordering a boyfriend about, to the proverbial 'zipless fuck' with a handsome stranger. He chose that fantasy, and you may note he goes on to claim tales of gang rape of pubescent girls were common fare in stag magazines of the time. They were not, they were not even a staple of 'true detective' magazines, which got pretty far 'out there' at times. It is clear 'Bernie' himself was obsessed with the subject of rape, and in fairly gaudy fashion to boot. The fantasy he leads off that article with, you may be sure, is his fantasy, and his practice --- masturbating while imagining a woman bound on her knees and abused. After which he proceeds to project this onto a fictional woman's mind, as her fantasy of gang-rape. He even projects his own fantasies out onto other men, imagining they mostly share his clear obsession with violent rape and sadistic bondage, else he would not claim such imaginings were common enough to be a staple of popular stag magazines. And that is without going into the age of his imagined victim....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
4. Russia somehow got to her in 2018
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe she fell in love with a KGB agent who has compromising pics or video of her.

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sop

(11,217 posts)
5. The most effective and damaging allegations made against public figures often target
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

their core supporters' fundamental belief system, to create doubt and question loyalty to that public figure. Because Democrats take sexual abuse seriously, Biden's core supporters are particularly susceptible to such allegations. Trump's supporters would never respond to this, they'd just laugh it off and never give it another thought.

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47of74

(18,470 posts)
6. I had to block a former FB friend over this
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

I had been friends with him for eight years but after he dug in on this I had enough and blocked him.

My spidey sense was going off about this that this is another Russian hit job.

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Indykatie

(3,853 posts)
8. It's Obviously a Hit Job Being Pushed Online by Bernie Supporters and Bots
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:01 PM
Mar 2020

I think the Bernie supporters pushing the story know this it's crap but that won't stop them from whining and complaining that the MSM is not highlighting the story. I think most Dems are at the point that we expected this type of bogus attack and refuse to let it influence their support of Biden.

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Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
13. They're also shaming people for not believing her
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020

I really don’t need that kind of mansplaining

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TomCADem

(17,760 posts)
7. Obama Accuser Larry Sinclair Holds Stupefying Press Conference - Who is Crazier?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:59 PM
Mar 2020

Heck, even looney toons Larry Sinclair knew better than to be a-Putin fanboy.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-accuser-larry-sincl_n_107900

It is not often that a political reporter can claim to have witnessed the single most stupefying event on any single day, what with the diversity of inanity on display from coast to coast in an election year. But today, I feel confident laying claim to that dubious distinction, for I attended Larry Sinclair’s Wednesday press conference at the National Press Club.

The event began less than auspiciously for Mr. Sinclair — who has gained Internet notoriety by spreading wild accusations regarding gay sex, drugs and possible murder committed by Barack Obama — as National Press Club staff took pains to remove the association’s logo from behind the podium where Sinclair was set to speak. (Politico’s Ben Smith today detailed Sinclair’s “27-year criminal record, with a specialty in crimes involving deceit.”)

Of course, the club had made clear for some time that it should not be viewed as endorsing Mr. Sinclair’s claims simply for having agreed to host his mind-numbingly preposterous litany — heavens, no! All that could be said for the institution was that it was happy to rent out its space to anyone who might be willing to pay in order to switch on the microphone.

And pay Sinclair did — for the venue and its microphone, as well as for a kilted lawyer (with a suspended license) named Montgomery Blair Sibley, who informed those assembled that his preferences in dress were arrived at as a way to secure comfort for his unusually large sexual organs. “I don’t know why men wear pants,” he said with a poker face. “It’s a function of male genitalia. If you’re size normal or smaller, you’re probably comfortable with [pants]. ... Those at the other end of the spectrum find them quite confining.”
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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
10. That Fella Was Quite A Show, Sir
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:04 PM
Mar 2020

Didn't realize it was still crippling on. Seem to recall it popping up in primary squabbles here in 2008, but I could be wrong....

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
11. Oh that's right.. I forgot about larry sinclair..
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:07 PM
Mar 2020

I was thinking earlier that Pres Obama had never had someone come out of the woodwork to accuse.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
12. I wish I knew who paid her.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

There are a lot of left journos who have ruined their reputation this primary.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
14. Despicable ...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 02:45 AM
Mar 2020

… So far, only Nina Turner of Bernie's big 3 has tweeted about it, but not on her main feed, only in Tweets and REplies and she passive-aggressively didn't make a statement, just threw some support Susan Sarandon's way.

How anyone can still support this campaign is beyond me. Tara Reade's story lacks so much credibility.

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Promisep

(31 posts)
19. Here's an article in which she praised Putin
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:39 PM
Mar 2020

She has since deleted it:


President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. President Putin has higher approval ratings in America then the American President. President Putin is beloved by Russia and he not going anywhere. Instead of being ensnared in the recent political intrigues (and America is trying hard to set that trap). President Putin is keeping a calm focus on his own country’s development and future, without America.

To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190404032244/https://medium.com/@shewrites94/bring-on-the-light-bf4e8c859058
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radius777

(3,814 posts)
32. Broken link, here is correct:
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

from Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190404032244/https://medium.com/@shewrites94/bring-on-the-light-bf4e8c859058

also just in case something 'happens' to the above article, it's also archived at archive today:

from Archive Today:
http://archive.is/F9B6i

Reade's article is one of the best I've seen in helping to understand the alt-left's (Stein, Gabbard, Greenwald, etc) warped Putin apologism. Reade spells it out where they merely dog whistle:

What if I told you that everything you learned about Russia was wrong? What if I told you as an American citizen, we have been fed propaganda to further a certain political American agenda? What if I told you actually we are “the bad guys” ? That we were on the wrong side of history?
Our American empire is falling and failing, not because of some imagined threat from a foreign nation but because of our collective greed. Greed is what runs our economy and greed is what will destroy America.
...
President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. President Putin has higher approval ratings in America then the American President. President Putin is beloved by Russia and he not going anywhere. Instead of being ensnared in the recent political intrigues (and America is trying hard to set that trap). President Putin is keeping a calm focus on his own country’s development and future, without America.
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helpisontheway

(5,268 posts)
20. I don't care what they say there is no way I would
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:43 PM
Mar 2020

ever believe that Biden assaulted a woman. I will not claim that he is the perfect candidate but he is a decent human being.

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Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
22. He assaulted women the way Al Franken did, by putting his arm on their waist for a picture
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

as in NOT at all.

Al Franken is known to be a touchy guy, there are families like that, very normal.

At no time did either Al or Joe assault anyone because if they did you would have, like RUMP, multiple reports of actual assault, LIKE RUMP.

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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
31. Indeed, Sir
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:44 PM
Mar 2020

Police officers laugh at the idea of a 'first offender' --- they believe this may be the first time someone is arrested, but that almost never is it the first time he or she broke the law, and far more often than not they are correct. Police know that people are creatures of habit, and behave consistently, doing again and again what they did before. It is unlikely a man would reach his late seventies without leaving a gaudy trail of such accusations clustered on his reputation, if this was the sort of thing he did. It's not the sort of thing a man does only once, especially a man in a position of some real power.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(23,879 posts)
21. People who have been assaulted act in all sorts of ways, some of which can seem contradictory
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020

to what a person might expect.

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Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
23. I seriously doubt Joe Biden assaulted anyone.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

It would be totally out of character.

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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
26. Do they change their stories consistently?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:06 PM
Mar 2020

Because she certainly has.

She stated Biden fired her after she accused him in 1993 and yet, years ago, said she left on her own due to wanting a career change and her fascination with Russia.

She stated in a recent interview that she thought of going public when Biden was selected in 2008 but decided against it yet her tweets from 2017, on her own private twitter account, seem to suggest she wanted Biden to run in 2016. Kinda weird that she's been this devastated by it all these years, wanted to come forward in 2008 but then openly praised and supported him in 2017, posting tweets about how he should have run.

But most damning, imo, is that she politicized her apparent rape, teasing in tweets back in early March that her accusation would help Bernie, who she now supports.

Seems fishy all around.

There's a credibility issue here.

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Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
29. Are you suggesting Biden assaulted anyone......despicable
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

accusation.

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Promisep

(31 posts)
33. No. Victims don't praise their accusers 20 years later
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:47 AM
Mar 2020

Liars act that way.
Tape does not produce amnesia.

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Galraedia

(5,176 posts)
35. They also don't say...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

"My old boss speaks the truth. Listen." ~ Tara Reade, referring to Joe Biden on Twitter.

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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
25. Biden has Teflon now. Sling that mud and watch it fly away faster than two positive magnetic poles.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:56 PM
Mar 2020

The fact that Trump, Giuliani and Co. committed treason in order to unseat him as the Democratic front runner---and failed--means that Biden is now smear proof.

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Jarqui

(10,490 posts)
27. She needs to go away now nt
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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radius777

(3,814 posts)
30. The one being raped is Biden.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

Reade somewhere along the line (perhaps due to online brainwashing) became steeped in alt-left ideology that is very pro-Putin and sees Dems as the root of all evil. IMO, it's similar to Roseanne Barr's transformation, from regular Dem to alt-left freak.

Reade's 'tic toc' tweets are revealing because it speaks to political calculation, and desire to prove herself to her alt-left comrades.

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