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Galraedia

(5,108 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:37 PM Mar 2020

Fox News Poll Shows Joe Biden CRUSHING Trump By 25 Points in Swing Counties

A new Fox News poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden leading President Donald Trump by a crushing 25 point margin in counties that were close in 2016.

The poll shows Biden with a commanding 49-40 lead over Trump nationally and an eight-point lead in battleground states, but things are considerably more dire for Trump in counties where Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were within 10 points of each other in 2016:

The race remains a nine-point advantage for Biden over Trump when looking only at those voters extremely interested in the election (52-43 percent) and the former vice president has an eight-point edge in battleground states (48-40 percent).

However, Biden’s advantage grows to 25 points, 57-32 percent, in close counties (where Hillary Clinton and Trump were within 10 points in 2016).


The timing of the poll is encouraging for Biden as well, since it was taken during a week in which Trump saw Americans buoy his approval ratings to the highest of his presidency amid the coronavirus crisis, a sign that the rallying effect might not translate to support for Trump’s reelection.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/news/fox-news-poll-shows-joe-biden-crushing-trump-by-25-points-in-swing-counties/
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Fox News Poll Shows Joe Biden CRUSHING Trump By 25 Points in Swing Counties (Original Post) Galraedia Mar 2020 OP
Approval ratings do not necessarily translate to votes still_one Mar 2020 #1
What good are these polls when DownriverDem Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. County-level polls are meaningless. It's the swing states that count. muriel_volestrangler Mar 2020 #3
Polls like this do have some value (as always assuming they are accurate) BidenBacker Mar 2020 #4
 

still_one

(96,032 posts)
1. Approval ratings do not necessarily translate to votes
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DownriverDem

(6,594 posts)
2. What good are these polls when
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020

we have to win the Electoral College? I do believe Biden can win enough states to beat trump, but we would have to see state by state polls. Biden will have down ballot coat tails too which we will need to get him a Dem House & Senate. It has to be more than a slim margin too if we really want to get big ideas passed.

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muriel_volestrangler

(102,372 posts)
3. Exactly. County-level polls are meaningless. It's the swing states that count.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 02:40 PM
Mar 2020

So the 8 point lead in "battleground states" is heartening, but probably meaningless - because this was a nationwide poll with only about 1,000 registered voters. So the margin of error in "battleground states" - which they don't list - will be huge. And the "swing counties" that are in battleground states will have such a large margin of error that it's laughable.

I wonder if the pollsters are happy with the attempt to use their data in this way, or if they're just laughing all the way to the bank without concern.

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BidenBacker

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4. Polls like this do have some value (as always assuming they are accurate)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:01 PM
Mar 2020

They don't answer the question "whatever, just tell us who's gonna win?". But they are good from a qualitative standpoint if not a quantitative one.

For example, if I told you guys there were say, 10 swing states in the US and that 7 or 8 of them showed that they were heavily breaking blue, would could you deduce from that? Not who's gonna win necessarily, but you'd know that things were moving in our favor...and perhaps in a big way. Similarly, if we know that many/most of the swing counties or districts that were close in the previous election were suddenly showing up as heavily in Democrats' favor, you'd know that the Republicans were likely in some serious shit if that trend continued through the election.

Below is a famous image that showed up not long after the 2018 midterms. It showed those House districts that flipped from one party to the other. It takes all of about 2 seconds to recognize that the blue side probably did a helluva lot better than the red side and that the former likely picked up a shitload of seats. Which is exactly what happened. It would likely look very similar if we were to graphically display the findings of polls like the one in the OP.

Try not to read too much into any one poll or focus too much on the actual numbers themselves...sometimes just knowing which direction they are moving is enough to give one some hope about the next election...or dash them against the rocks. Based on what I'm seeing these days, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in a Republican boat right about now. Especially if Captain Chaos was commanding it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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