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Uncle Joe

(60,149 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:24 PM Mar 2020

Sanders is still running for president. Here's why he may not quit anytime soon.



(snip)

While some former top advisers acknowledge the difficulty Sanders has in overcoming Joe Biden's significant delegate lead, other allies of the Vermont senator note that his message and his agenda are well-suited to a moment when millions of people are filing for unemployment and losing their health care while large corporations seek billions in bail out funds.

James Zogby, a Democratic National Committee member who is on the board of "Our Revolution," said in an interview that he saw no reason for Sanders to give up his national platform now.

"We don't know what will befall us," he said. "I mean, who knew two months ago that we'd be where we are with the virus. Who knows where we'll be two months from now? Who knows what Bernie does, what Biden does, what else happens that will change the dynamics, so it would be irresponsible to leave the race, as some have suggested."

(snip)

Even as some called for him to exit the race, Sanders turned his campaign into a vehicle to spread information about the outbreak and explain why he believes progressive goals like "Medicare for All" are even more urgently needed.He used his mailing list to raise $2 million for coronavirus, then circulated a petition to support Amazon warehouse workers. Earlier this week, Sanders streamed another event where he explained all the details of the more than $2 trillion Senate coronavirus stimulus package — what he liked and what he didn’t like, what he’d fought for and what Republicans had sought.

(snip)


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-still-running-president-here-s-why-he-may-not-n1170511

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sanders is still running for president. Here's why he may not quit anytime soon. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2020 OP
'Bernie' Runs To Destroy The 'Democratic Establishment', Sir, Not For President. The Magistrate Mar 2020 #1
You got that right... FarPoint Mar 2020 #31
What bullshit. His campaign isn't spreading information about the Squinch Mar 2020 #2
So the other previous candidates Bev54 Mar 2020 #14
This. mcar Mar 2020 #26
$ and ego. That's why. LizBeth Mar 2020 #3
".....who knew two months ago that we'd be where we are with the virus.... George II Mar 2020 #4
Another reason: $$$ TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #5
I'm curious customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #36
Waiting for Biden to get sick or a smear campaign to work? RandySF Mar 2020 #6
I've thought that many Times! He's already smearing and it isn't working Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #20
Yes, we are in such unprecedented times that nobody knows what the state of the world will totodeinhere Mar 2020 #7
Even if Biden were to become ill with coronavirus TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #10
I didn't say that Bernie could still get the nomination in that case. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #15
Not only that, but all the delegates who are now pledged to Biden would STILL vote for Biden.... George II Mar 2020 #19
You Must See, Sir, This Sounds Like A Cicling Of Vultures The Magistrate Mar 2020 #11
Come on, I didn't say I was hoping it would happen. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #18
No, Sir, You Very Carefully Did Not The Magistrate Mar 2020 #21
Well, that's .... appropriate .... given who you evidently support. Hekate Mar 2020 #16
What if, god forbid, Bernie gets it? mcar Mar 2020 #29
Bernie might run posthumously? sop Mar 2020 #37
Thread win! mcar Mar 2020 #38
sanders needs to stay in to hlelp trump win re-election Gothmog Mar 2020 #8
Apparntly so Hekate Mar 2020 #17
The worst thing that could happen relayerbob Mar 2020 #9
Bernie thinks the Democratic Establishment as he calls it bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #12
bad choice. barbtries Mar 2020 #13
he is doing the same as he did last time Skittles Mar 2020 #22
Impossibility, not difficulty. we can do it Mar 2020 #23
Bernie's plan to fix the health care system Progressive dog Mar 2020 #24
Sounds like Sanders is staying in to see if Biden gets C19 mcar Mar 2020 #25
Ha...Looking Like We Were Tying At The Same Time Me. Mar 2020 #30
GMTA! mcar Mar 2020 #33
And You Know, Now That I Think About It Me. Mar 2020 #35
So...What...? Me. Mar 2020 #27
WTF???? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2020 #28
The race is over...given the way our primaries work...proportional...Sanders can't catch Biden but Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #32
Because he doesn't want to wait eight years to run again aeromanKC Mar 2020 #34
I love watching heads explode. bahrbearian Mar 2020 #39
So does Bernie. showblue22 Mar 2020 #41
So we're watching an even more tragic repeat of 2016 Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #40
And someday he will give up dis 2016 whistler162 Mar 2020 #42
Well, what do you know, a B$ PAC member call$ for prolonging the inevitable. Quelle $urpri$e! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #43
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
1. 'Bernie' Runs To Destroy The 'Democratic Establishment', Sir, Not For President.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

The matter is laid out here....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287687060




"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FarPoint

(13,640 posts)
31. You got that right...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:40 PM
Mar 2020

I have actually had my fill of self serving, political ideologist failures for the rest of my life.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(52,770 posts)
2. What bullshit. His campaign isn't spreading information about the
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

virus. His campaign is collecting money and smearing Biden.

The self-aggrandizement is creepy, pathetic, and reminiscent of Filthy Donnie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bev54

(11,917 posts)
14. So the other previous candidates
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

who "suspended" their campaigns could jump right back in, should something happen to Biden right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(10,823 posts)
3. $ and ego. That's why.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. ".....who knew two months ago that we'd be where we are with the virus....
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:31 PM
Mar 2020

....Who knows where we'll be two months from now?"

So they're rooting for another catastrophe to inject life into his candidacy?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TexasTowelie

(116,830 posts)
5. Another reason: $$$
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:32 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie has a lot of people on payroll that will have a difficult time finding jobs that pay as well as what they are earning working for his campaign. Stretching things out another three months puts $25K - $50K into the bank accounts for those surrogates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
36. I'm curious
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

is Sanders still getting donations? I can imagine that all the way up to Super Tuesday he was, but after that, it would seem clear to a lot of donors that the campaign was going nowhere.

I know quarterly figures will be coming out in a couple of weeks or so, but is there any way to know how much they've dropped off lately?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(70,652 posts)
6. Waiting for Biden to get sick or a smear campaign to work?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
20. I've thought that many Times! He's already smearing and it isn't working
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

Thank heavens Joe isn’t taking any chances

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,313 posts)
7. Yes, we are in such unprecedented times that nobody knows what the state of the world will
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:33 PM
Mar 2020

be tomorrow let alone two months from now. With so many prominent politicians testing positive for the virus, what happens if God forbid 77 year old Joe Biden gets it? We all pray that he doesn't, but due to Joe's position he can't isolate himself forever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TexasTowelie

(116,830 posts)
10. Even if Biden were to become ill with coronavirus
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020

it doesn't mean that Bernie would get the nomination. We would have a brokered convention and I doubt that any of the members of the Democratic establishment that are superdelegates are going to be willing to have Bernie represent the Democratic party, just like most Democrats that have voted in primaries are not willing to have Bernie represent the Democratic party as their nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,313 posts)
15. I didn't say that Bernie could still get the nomination in that case.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

I'm just saying that we have never seen something like this in our entire lifetimes. Trump and Pence are also very susceptible even if they have tested negative so far. If it knocked both of them out then Nancy Pelosi is next in line. If she became president would the party consider nominating her instead?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Not only that, but all the delegates who are now pledged to Biden would STILL vote for Biden....
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

....even if he was unable to accept the nomination. Then with the second ballot they would vote for a Democrat who would be nominated.

I find it bizarre (and troubling) that some are seemingly rooting for something to happen to Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
11. You Must See, Sir, This Sounds Like A Cicling Of Vultures
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020

If this is a real hope, remember Sanders is every bit as vulnerable, and in a class with elevated risk of serious complications over and above mere age..

Nor would the vulture's hope secure the nomination for Sanders. He would be rejected in favor of some favorite son or daughter of the Party at the convention.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,313 posts)
18. Come on, I didn't say I was hoping it would happen.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020

I specifically said that I pray that it doesn't happen. But it might. And yes Bernie is very vulnerable too and he has received criticism for staying in Vermont when the Senate was in session. Of course all he was doing was trying to protect himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
21. No, Sir, You Very Carefully Did Not
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

It was well done, and get some credit for being at least competent at the work....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hekate

(94,702 posts)
16. Well, that's .... appropriate .... given who you evidently support.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

So Joe Biden should just die?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(43,512 posts)
29. What if, god forbid, Bernie gets it?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:38 PM
Mar 2020

He recently had a heart attack and is also in the high-risk age range. See how that works?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sop

(11,216 posts)
37. Bernie might run posthumously?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(43,512 posts)
38. Thread win!
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
8. sanders needs to stay in to hlelp trump win re-election
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(7,020 posts)
9. The worst thing that could happen
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:39 PM
Mar 2020

is to have ALL of our health care under the control of the government run by Trump. This is absolute proof that such a system, not having options is incredibly dangerous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(47,018 posts)
12. Bernie thinks the Democratic Establishment as he calls it
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:42 PM
Mar 2020

will eventually turn and nominate Bernie. That's a non-starter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

barbtries

(29,805 posts)
13. bad choice.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:48 PM
Mar 2020

he's running on ego and it is not good for the republic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(159,374 posts)
22. he is doing the same as he did last time
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

we can do it

(12,777 posts)
23. Impossibility, not difficulty.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:22 PM
Mar 2020

More BS from BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Progressive dog

(7,243 posts)
24. Bernie's plan to fix the health care system
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

assumes that we won't need as much care. He should tell that story to the corona virus. What a pathetic has been.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(43,512 posts)
25. Sounds like Sanders is staying in to see if Biden gets C19
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020

Nice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
30. Ha...Looking Like We Were Tying At The Same Time
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
35. And You Know, Now That I Think About It
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:45 PM
Mar 2020

often what you wish on others bounces back on you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. So...What...?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:38 PM
Mar 2020

Are they still hoping something happens to JB?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
32. The race is over...given the way our primaries work...proportional...Sanders can't catch Biden but
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:40 PM
Mar 2020

what he can do is stay too long an reelect Trump. I like you uncle Joe, but I can't deal with the Bernie excuses anymore thus I am putting any who call for Sanders to stay in and have his pic on their posts on ignore...I simply can't deal with what I see as a (deliberate?) situation where Sanders hurts Biden and ultimately throws the election to Trump. See you on the other side of the primary...when Biden is the official nominee. I only hope it won't be too late to beat Trump. Sanders apparently doesn't care if Trump wins again. Once again (2016 General) Sanders may cause Democrats to lose and help reelect a baby caging monster.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aeromanKC

(3,479 posts)
34. Because he doesn't want to wait eight years to run again
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:44 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie is continuing to run now so the Democrats don't win this year and thus will not be the incumbent party in 2024.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
39. I love watching heads explode.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Docreed2003

(17,812 posts)
40. So we're watching an even more tragic repeat of 2016
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:39 PM
Mar 2020

Great...good to know that Sanders' priorities are with himself instead of the country. You want a progressive revolution, be the hero and lead it from your position of leadership in the Senate. Sanders has no path forward short of something tragic happening to Biden...is that what they want??

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
42. And someday he will give up dis 2016
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

Presidential bid!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
43. Well, what do you know, a B$ PAC member call$ for prolonging the inevitable. Quelle $urpri$e!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:38 AM
Mar 2020



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