Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumFacing Likely Defeat, Bernie Sanders' Campaign Found A New Cause
After Bernie Sanders suffered three straight weeks of big losses across the country, the Vermont Senator returned home to "assess his campaign."
It appeared, in that moment, that Sanders' campaign was all but over. He trailed former Vice President Joe Biden by about 300 delegates and was facing calls to drop out. The conventional wisdom in political circles was that Biden would effectively wrap up the nomination by the end of March.
But the coronavirus outbreak has largely put the presidential race on hold, with most upcoming primaries postponed and all in-person campaigning cancelled. The immediate political focus has shifted to stopping the pandemic and offering financial relief to struggling Americans. And in this moment, Sanders voice and vision seem to have had a resurgence.
His allies and supporters are convinced that, as the crisis has unfolded and the country suffers from record unemployment, the issues that the Vermont senator has long touted, like income inequality and "Medicare for All," will force the country to have a reckoning about its financial and healthcare systems. In other words, they're convinced the crisis is resuscitating Sanders' agenda.
Read more: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/29/822749003/facing-likely-defeat-bernie-sanders-campaign-found-a-new-cause
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UncleNoel
(864 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Or am I thinking of some other country?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Magoo48
(5,401 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...getting it passed there and the House.
A president doesn't introduce legislation, Senators and Representatives do.
The underlying question is why this hasn't been accomplished by him already during the near 30 years he's been a legislator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Is that 'Bernie' cannot deliver these things as enacted law, no matter how much he runs his mouth about them, and how virulently he slangs people who do not hail him as leader of the liberal and progressive cause.
Further, on the basis of how 'Bernie' behaved in 2016, there is every reason to believe his continued jihad against the 'Democratic Establishment' will aid the cause of Trump's re-election (one shudders to write the words), as in 2016 it certainly aided the creature's campaign. Many people accordingly see 'Bernie' as a positive menace to liberal and progressive hopes, since continuation of Trump in office and McConnell in control of the Senate will set back progressive hopes for a generation. This moves many to active anger when 'Bernie' runs his mouth about things they desire because they understand that whatever 'Bernie' may say, what 'Bernie' does works against their hopes.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UncleNoel
(864 posts)But Magistrate put it well about the practicality angle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)win enough delegates at this point...all he can do is help Trump if he stays in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UncleNoel
(864 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(41,363 posts)I don't think that is what is going on. In my opinion, what is really going on is that Bernie is stubborn to a fault and is having difficulty processing the fact that he is never going to be President of The United States. The End.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The people are not going to turn to 'Bernie' for leadership in a crisis.
What 'Bernie' claims as 'his' is actually common parlance of Democratic voters and officials. He holds no copyright on concern over inequality and expansion of health care coverage.
People see clearly he is incompetent to secure such things for them within our existing political system. He reads to the great preponderance of people as a blow-hard , a man who sells wolf tickets he could never cover. No one turns to such a person for leadership, particularly not in a crisis such as pandemic plague.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Without a snowball's chance in Hell is far closer to the mark....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)And it's pretty clear that people aren't paying much attention to it outside of his die-hard supporters. People in general are more concerned about whether or not they and their loved ones are going to live through this pandemic than they are whether his mythical health plan would have helped.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)His campaign, not so much. From my perspective.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marble falls
(62,249 posts)not the system.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)M4A isnt selling, because a certain bloviating Senator who screeches the loudest for it has yet to get off his ass to come up with a detailed plan, craft the legislation built upon it, worked with any of his colleagues to get it passed or to get it signed.
And never mind getting it done in time to make any difference before the dead are shoveled into mass graves.
People want workable solutions now, not empty, unrealistic promises that will never go anywhere if theyre depending on BS to get them done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,773 posts)It might be because the list of covid-19 dead's names dwarfs the list at the Vietnam Memorial wall.
It will take a giant shock to get to 60 votes in the Senate, and to overcome the wave of medical-insurance-pharma lobbying dollars that will sweep up some number of house members.
I hope the virus is stopped before the list gets that big.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)That Lancaster business was frankly disgusting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hay rick
(8,221 posts)He competed and he lost. The middle of a crisis is poor time to be saying I told you so. That may salve his wounded ego, but it will not advance the causes he has promoted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,764 posts)How long before he quotes Trump and says, I alone can fix things?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden