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Related: About this forumA woman falsely accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault
She also recounted an incident where she says she was told by staff that she had to serve drinks at a Biden event because he "liked my legs." She told Salon she rejected this request and complained directly to supervisors Marianne Baker and Dennis Toner. Reade says that her complaints led to being sidelined and pushed out of Biden's office. Both Baker and Toner denied to Salon ever having such a conversation with Reade.
Reade's April 2019 account of why she left Biden's office also conflicts with earlier things she has written. In a December 2018 Medium post she's since deleted, Reade wrote that she quit working for Biden to pursue a vocation in the arts and because she loves "Russia with all my heart" and rejected "the reckless imperialism of America" and what she saw as an anti-Russian view on Capitol Hill.
Before 2019, Reade lived under another name she changed it for many years to escape an abusive husband, and provided the paperwork demonstrating this to Salon and her public statements about Biden were entirely positive. After making her April 2019 allegations that Biden had touched her inappropriately, Reade spent months tweeting that story, dozens of times, at various figures politicians, celebrities, media outlets, even Donald Trump to no response.
Source: https://www.salon.com/2020/03/31/a-woman-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault-and-all-hell-breaks-loose-online-heres-what-we-know/
Tara Reade in 2017...
Tara Read in 2019 tweeting to Donald Trump...
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SWBTATTReg
(24,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(38,590 posts)While we might worry about participating in politics at a higher moral level, this is just the "perfect as the enemy of the good" framing of Biden's candidacy.
I never buy the "perfect as the enemy of the good" standard for Democrats, whether it's from our own DU members or the right wing.
This 'report' keeps making digital media rounds and is becoming filler for their news. Pandemic poppycock posting. Salon can go suck it.
I'll worry about fingers on a neck and shoulder touching when Disaster Donnie dares bring it up.
Which will be never.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)It is a very well balanced article that explains why good reporters aren't blasting the Intercept piece.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,648 posts)for 8 years. Where was she then?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,347 posts)Times have changed, and lots of people have come forward recently about allegations from long ago (see Harvey Weinstein). I would not want to dismiss a woman's claim because she didn't make it sooner or didn't make it at the time. So yeah, this seems bogus, but "where was she then" is not a response I'd go with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(38,590 posts)candidates dead on the ground; it's stupid clay pigeon shooting.
Obama and others warned us Democrats about this bullshit at least six months ago. And don't think this is the first time a jury has seen it.
"BUTBUTBUTBUT...!" BUT NOTHING. Virtue signaling must feed the bored egos out there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(38,590 posts)Again, Salon can go suck it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)about him putting his hand on her neck.
Sorry, she doesn't get to extend and elaborate on her story now. She had her chance a year ago, and then again when he announced his run, and then again when the primaries began.
She doesn't suddenly get more credible after her fav, Bernie, does badly in the primaries.
Especially with her Tic tock tweet on March 3.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,347 posts)specifically when Biden was VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)the assault, if it really happened. And she didn't.
In light of the whole situation, I don't believe her. More information could change my mind, but the Salon writer says she couldn't get the brother to talk to her, or Tara to name the friend she supposedly talked to.
It's rare, but a certain number of women do lie about these things. I haven't seen enough evidence that Tara is telling the truth, and there are some major red flags.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,347 posts)...that "if it's true, why didn't she report it back then" is a bad reason to not believe a woman. In this case, there are other less problematic reasons to doubt her story.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(38,590 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,769 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)This is an in-depth article on it... worth reading in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)She seems about as credible as Larry Sinclair....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)though they are both good. They just look at the story from different angles.
The Salon piece the OP posted explains why the MSM hasn't been echoing the Intercept's story -- there are major red flags.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)now I will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)of the Krassensteins report on the Timeline and various more details.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)in other places before I read theirs. It did a good job of putting everything together, though.
But Marcotte added some key new info, including the fact that she couldn't get the confirmation Halper claimed to have gotten. Tara's brother wouldn't speak to Marcotte; and Tara refused to name her friend.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)not being able to get confirmation from TR's brother. because he wouldn't even speak to her. Since Tara claims to have told them at the time she would need them to back her up. Not just from Halper.
I hadn't read that much of what Krassensteins' reported.. so it was really enlightening.. especially when they put it all in perspective with the Timeline.
And, that detail about TR praising Assange.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)It explains there are a number of red flags to Tara's claims in the Intercept story, which is why other outlets are proceeding with caution
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)performance in 2016. They were, after all, the home of HA Goodman and Walker Bragman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)and she's written a solid, measured piece here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)at Salon. She is their one bright spot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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healthnut7
(249 posts)I think she meant to put the name Donald Trump there!! He is the one that supposedly raped someone, and not just a someone a 13 year old girl!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)anyone...ignore also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)that I haven't seen anywhere else.
For example, this reporter couldn't get Tara's brother to speak to her. And Tara wouldn't tell the reporter the name of the girlfriend she supposedly spoke with at the time, so the reporter couldn't confirm the Intercept story.
I don't know why a story that explains why the Intercept story is NOT being echoed by the MSM, and lists some red flags about her claims, should be trashed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,232 posts)It's a pure rehash shit-stir.
The woman is mental and a fraud, THE END (and that was a while back)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)It explains the red flags that have been keeping the MSM from jumping on the Intercept story, including this -- which I've seen nowhere else:
Marcotte, the reporter, tried to get a confirmation out of the supposed witnesses to Reade's story -- her brother and her friend. The brother refused to speak with the reporter and Tara refused to give the name of her friend to Marcotte.
So there is nothing to this story except for Tara's constantly changing claims.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)article is full of red flags about TR.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Don1
(1,659 posts)Saying she was in love with Putin.
Is that true?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Galraedia
(5,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)of Reade compared to the woman in the video. Her teeth, her facial structure, her eyes -- all different.
And the reporter here confirmed it, after talking to the adult children of the mentally ill woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Where it says:
This is incorrect. Nina Turner tweeted an emojis to Ryan Grim, Krystal Ball, and Susan Sarandon with passive-aggressive emojis in response to their Kavanaugh questionswhich were absolutely followups to their prior comments on Tara Reade.
So Nina absolutely weighed in. Here are the receipts. And the Berners on this site wonder why we get upset. This isn't just a case of Russian bots, though hopefully, nobody here will argue that Turner actually is a Russian bot like someone did on my Facebook.
Receipts
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden