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Galraedia

(5,176 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:11 PM Mar 2020

A woman falsely accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault

Reade's story of what happened during her tenure working for Biden has changed over time. In April of 2019, Reade spoke to a local Nevada paper, claiming Biden "would touch me on the shoulder or hold his hand on my shoulder running his index finger up my neck during a meeting."

She also recounted an incident where she says she was told by staff that she had to serve drinks at a Biden event because he "liked my legs." She told Salon she rejected this request and complained directly to supervisors Marianne Baker and Dennis Toner. Reade says that her complaints led to being sidelined and pushed out of Biden's office. Both Baker and Toner denied to Salon ever having such a conversation with Reade.

Reade's April 2019 account of why she left Biden's office also conflicts with earlier things she has written. In a December 2018 Medium post she's since deleted, Reade wrote that she quit working for Biden to pursue a vocation in the arts and because she loves "Russia with all my heart" and rejected "the reckless imperialism of America" and what she saw as an anti-Russian view on Capitol Hill.

Before 2019, Reade lived under another name — she changed it for many years to escape an abusive husband, and provided the paperwork demonstrating this to Salon — and her public statements about Biden were entirely positive. After making her April 2019 allegations that Biden had touched her inappropriately, Reade spent months tweeting that story, dozens of times, at various figures — politicians, celebrities, media outlets, even Donald Trump — to no response.


Source: https://www.salon.com/2020/03/31/a-woman-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault-and-all-hell-breaks-loose-online-heres-what-we-know/

Tara Reade in 2017...


Tara Read in 2019 tweeting to Donald Trump...




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A woman falsely accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault (Original Post) Galraedia Mar 2020 OP
Yeah right. SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #1
This has been posted and reposted for a week or longer n/t left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
Yeah. I'm getting tired of what borders on undermining the party itself. ancianita Mar 2020 #6
This piece came out TODAY and is not the Intercept piece . pnwmom Mar 2020 #12
Biden was VP DownriverDem Mar 2020 #3
I think the allegations are nonsense, but "where was she back then" is a poor defense. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #5
To amplify forward such a TRIVIAL offense as some "major moral failing" would leave all Democratic ancianita Mar 2020 #8
What she's claiming is far from a trivial offense, but her claim is also far from credible. n/t pnwmom Mar 2020 #13
I disagree. Even if it's far from credible, it deserves no status in this election. ancianita Mar 2020 #16
"Back then" was less than a year ago, when she came forward pnwmom Mar 2020 #10
In the context of the post I was replying to, "back then" was 2009-2016 thesquanderer Mar 2020 #11
Okay, but she had an interview as recently as April, where she had a chance to bring up pnwmom Mar 2020 #19
As I said, I don't believe it either. I was merely saying... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #24
I agree. ancianita Mar 2020 #17
you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #4
Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade's Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden Cha Mar 2020 #7
That Is A Pretty Professional Job Of Demolition, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9
The Salon article is even better than the Medium one, in my opinion, pnwmom Mar 2020 #14
Thanks.. no I haven't read it yet.. and Cha Mar 2020 #18
I read it.. Thanks. I got much more out Cha Mar 2020 #27
I guess I didn't get more out of the Krassenstein piece because I'd read those details pnwmom Mar 2020 #28
Yeah.. that was good information about Cha Mar 2020 #29
Yes, praising Assange! That was an important detail. n/t pnwmom Mar 2020 #30
THANKS. I think a lot of the commenters here didn't read the actual article. pnwmom Mar 2020 #15
Many of us still distrust Salon after their disgraceful comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #22
You're right about Goodman, of course. But Amanda Marcotte is a different person pnwmom Mar 2020 #26
She always seemed to be a voice crying out in the wilderness comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #20
She is mixed up! healthnut7 Mar 2020 #21
Trashing there is no reason for a Biden supporter to post this...having a pic doesn't really fool Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #23
You didn't read the article. It lists some major red flags about Tara's claim pnwmom Mar 2020 #25
completely agree!!!!!! Celerity Mar 2020 #31
You couldn't have read the piece. It's not a rehash. pnwmom Mar 2020 #35
Galraedia is a Biden Supporter.. the Cha Mar 2020 #33
I read on here that she was on Dr Phil Don1 Mar 2020 #34
No. That was actually someone else. Galraedia Mar 2020 #36
No, that was obviously a different person. I could see that just from recent pictures pnwmom Mar 2020 #37
One thing about this article is wrong: nolawarlock Apr 2020 #38
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. This has been posted and reposted for a week or longer n/t
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:15 PM
Mar 2020
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ancianita

(38,590 posts)
6. Yeah. I'm getting tired of what borders on undermining the party itself.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

While we might worry about participating in politics at a higher moral level, this is just the "perfect as the enemy of the good" framing of Biden's candidacy.

I never buy the "perfect as the enemy of the good" standard for Democrats, whether it's from our own DU members or the right wing.

This 'report' keeps making digital media rounds and is becoming filler for their news. Pandemic poppycock posting. Salon can go suck it.

I'll worry about fingers on a neck and shoulder touching when Disaster Donnie dares bring it up.

Which will be never.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
12. This piece came out TODAY and is not the Intercept piece .
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:05 PM
Mar 2020

It is a very well balanced article that explains why good reporters aren't blasting the Intercept piece.

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DownriverDem

(6,648 posts)
3. Biden was VP
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

for 8 years. Where was she then?

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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
5. I think the allegations are nonsense, but "where was she back then" is a poor defense.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:25 PM
Mar 2020

Times have changed, and lots of people have come forward recently about allegations from long ago (see Harvey Weinstein). I would not want to dismiss a woman's claim because she didn't make it sooner or didn't make it at the time. So yeah, this seems bogus, but "where was she then" is not a response I'd go with.

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ancianita

(38,590 posts)
8. To amplify forward such a TRIVIAL offense as some "major moral failing" would leave all Democratic
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:37 PM
Mar 2020

candidates dead on the ground; it's stupid clay pigeon shooting.

Obama and others warned us Democrats about this bullshit at least six months ago. And don't think this is the first time a jury has seen it.

"BUTBUTBUTBUT...!" BUT NOTHING. Virtue signaling must feed the bored egos out there.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
13. What she's claiming is far from a trivial offense, but her claim is also far from credible. n/t
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ancianita

(38,590 posts)
16. I disagree. Even if it's far from credible, it deserves no status in this election.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

Again, Salon can go suck it.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
10. "Back then" was less than a year ago, when she came forward
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

about him putting his hand on her neck.

Sorry, she doesn't get to extend and elaborate on her story now. She had her chance a year ago, and then again when he announced his run, and then again when the primaries began.

She doesn't suddenly get more credible after her fav, Bernie, does badly in the primaries.

Especially with her Tic tock tweet on March 3.

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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
11. In the context of the post I was replying to, "back then" was 2009-2016
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:55 PM
Mar 2020

specifically when Biden was VP.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
19. Okay, but she had an interview as recently as April, where she had a chance to bring up
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:14 PM
Mar 2020

the assault, if it really happened. And she didn't.

In light of the whole situation, I don't believe her. More information could change my mind, but the Salon writer says she couldn't get the brother to talk to her, or Tara to name the friend she supposedly talked to.

It's rare, but a certain number of women do lie about these things. I haven't seen enough evidence that Tara is telling the truth, and there are some major red flags.

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thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
24. As I said, I don't believe it either. I was merely saying...
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

...that "if it's true, why didn't she report it back then" is a bad reason to not believe a woman. In this case, there are other less problematic reasons to doubt her story.

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stonecutter357

(12,769 posts)
4. you seem very concerned !
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(305,440 posts)
7. Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade's Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=250918

This is an in-depth article on it... worth reading in my opinion.
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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
9. That Is A Pretty Professional Job Of Demolition, Ma'am
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020

She seems about as credible as Larry Sinclair....

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
14. The Salon article is even better than the Medium one, in my opinion,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:08 PM
Mar 2020

though they are both good. They just look at the story from different angles.

The Salon piece the OP posted explains why the MSM hasn't been echoing the Intercept's story -- there are major red flags.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
18. Thanks.. no I haven't read it yet.. and
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

now I will.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
27. I read it.. Thanks. I got much more out
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:49 PM
Mar 2020

of the Krassensteins report on the Timeline and various more details.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
28. I guess I didn't get more out of the Krassenstein piece because I'd read those details
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

in other places before I read theirs. It did a good job of putting everything together, though.

But Marcotte added some key new info, including the fact that she couldn't get the confirmation Halper claimed to have gotten. Tara's brother wouldn't speak to Marcotte; and Tara refused to name her friend.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
29. Yeah.. that was good information about
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

not being able to get confirmation from TR's brother. because he wouldn't even speak to her. Since Tara claims to have told them at the time she would need them to back her up. Not just from Halper.

I hadn't read that much of what Krassensteins' reported.. so it was really enlightening.. especially when they put it all in perspective with the Timeline.

And, that detail about TR praising Assange.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
30. Yes, praising Assange! That was an important detail. n/t
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020
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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
15. THANKS. I think a lot of the commenters here didn't read the actual article.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020

It explains there are a number of red flags to Tara's claims in the Intercept story, which is why other outlets are proceeding with caution

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comradebillyboy

(10,467 posts)
22. Many of us still distrust Salon after their disgraceful
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:21 PM
Mar 2020

performance in 2016. They were, after all, the home of HA Goodman and Walker Bragman.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
26. You're right about Goodman, of course. But Amanda Marcotte is a different person
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

and she's written a solid, measured piece here.

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comradebillyboy

(10,467 posts)
32. She always seemed to be a voice crying out in the wilderness
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:32 PM
Mar 2020

at Salon. She is their one bright spot.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

 

healthnut7

(249 posts)
21. She is mixed up!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

I think she meant to put the name Donald Trump there!! He is the one that supposedly raped someone, and not just a someone a 13 year old girl!!!

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Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
23. Trashing there is no reason for a Biden supporter to post this...having a pic doesn't really fool
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:25 PM
Mar 2020

anyone...ignore also.

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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
25. You didn't read the article. It lists some major red flags about Tara's claim
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

that I haven't seen anywhere else.

For example, this reporter couldn't get Tara's brother to speak to her. And Tara wouldn't tell the reporter the name of the girlfriend she supposedly spoke with at the time, so the reporter couldn't confirm the Intercept story.

I don't know why a story that explains why the Intercept story is NOT being echoed by the MSM, and lists some red flags about her claims, should be trashed.

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Celerity

(46,232 posts)
31. completely agree!!!!!!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:34 PM
Mar 2020


It's a pure rehash shit-stir.

The woman is mental and a fraud, THE END (and that was a while back)
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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
35. You couldn't have read the piece. It's not a rehash.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

It explains the red flags that have been keeping the MSM from jumping on the Intercept story, including this -- which I've seen nowhere else:

Marcotte, the reporter, tried to get a confirmation out of the supposed witnesses to Reade's story -- her brother and her friend. The brother refused to speak with the reporter and Tara refused to give the name of her friend to Marcotte.

So there is nothing to this story except for Tara's constantly changing claims.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
33. Galraedia is a Biden Supporter.. the
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:01 PM
Mar 2020

article is full of red flags about TR.

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Don1

(1,659 posts)
34. I read on here that she was on Dr Phil
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

Saying she was in love with Putin.

Is that true?

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Galraedia

(5,176 posts)
36. No. That was actually someone else.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:15 PM
Mar 2020
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pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
37. No, that was obviously a different person. I could see that just from recent pictures
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:15 PM
Mar 2020

of Reade compared to the woman in the video. Her teeth, her facial structure, her eyes -- all different.

And the reporter here confirmed it, after talking to the adult children of the mentally ill woman.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
38. One thing about this article is wrong:
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 06:38 AM
Apr 2020

Where it says:

(To be clear: Neither candidate's campaign has engaged with these conspiracy theories in any way.)


This is incorrect. Nina Turner tweeted an emojis to Ryan Grim, Krystal Ball, and Susan Sarandon with passive-aggressive emojis in response to their Kavanaugh questions—which were absolutely followups to their prior comments on Tara Reade.

So Nina absolutely weighed in. Here are the receipts. And the Berners on this site wonder why we get upset. This isn't just a case of Russian bots, though hopefully, nobody here will argue that Turner actually is a Russian bot like someone did on my Facebook.

Receipts



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