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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:19 PM Mar 2020

If @BernieSanders really wants to enact his liberal agenda instead of just talking about it, he..



These are just words if BS doesn't actually do it..

Donald Trump must be defeated,” Bernie Sanders insists, “and I will do everything in my power to make that happen.”

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287673175

StaySafe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If @BernieSanders really wants to enact his liberal agenda instead of just talking about it, he.. (Original Post) Cha Mar 2020 OP
Just do it Bernie DownriverDem Mar 2020 #1
Yes that would be the surest way to get rid of trump.. did BS Cha Mar 2020 #15
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #2
Mahalo, Bill!! Cha Mar 2020 #16
K&R brer cat Mar 2020 #3
Thank You, brer cat! Cha Mar 2020 #21
Senator Sanders, you can be a hero. Every day that you refuse to withdraw and endorse Joe Biden..... George II Mar 2020 #4
A Statesman or a Spoiler peggysue2 Mar 2020 #5
a spoiler would be if he ran as an independent, thus being in GE & draining a percent of votes Sunlei Mar 2020 #9
Nice try peggysue2 Mar 2020 #13
Today, Sanders senior staff asked for donations to charities & again I donated. Sunlei Mar 2020 #17
He has the Greens for that dansolo Apr 2020 #23
Kick and Recommend, btw peggysue2 Mar 2020 #6
Mahalo, Peggysue! Cha Mar 2020 #22
Vermont senator Bernie Sanders has called for $2,000 in monthly payment to every U.S. househ Sunlei Mar 2020 #7
BS LOST.. The Voters Rejected him & his Agenda & he Spent 4x Cha Mar 2020 #10
He hasn't lost until the fat lady sings the delegate 1991 song (everyone has their vote) Sunlei Mar 2020 #12
Yes BS Has Lost.. there's No Mathematical Path for BS. Cha Mar 2020 #14
Bernie? VP? showblue22 Mar 2020 #19
Biden has already excluded a gender so no worries needed. Clinton would be a good VP choice. Sunlei Mar 2020 #20
Exactly! relayerbob Mar 2020 #8
He needs to tell his loyal inner circle ucrdem Mar 2020 #11
It takes hard work to get a major bill passed and that means working inside your party Gothmog Mar 2020 #18
That helps to explain a lot and why he has so few legislative accomplishments... NurseJackie Apr 2020 #24
 

DownriverDem

(6,648 posts)
1. Just do it Bernie
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

We need you to quit and work for your ideas in the next Senate. We must get rid of trump. Now because of his lack of leadership, Americans are dying,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
15. Yes that would be the surest way to get rid of trump.. did BS
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020

mean these words or not?

Donald Trump must be defeated,” Bernie Sanders insists, “and I will do everything in my power to make that happen.”

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287673175

Mahalo, DownriverDem!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,830 posts)
2. Kick & recommended.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
16. Mahalo, Bill!!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
21. Thank You, brer cat!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Senator Sanders, you can be a hero. Every day that you refuse to withdraw and endorse Joe Biden.....
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:48 PM
Mar 2020

....you lose more support and more voters, and you strengthen trump's chances of being re-elected.

Do you want to be remembered by that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(11,479 posts)
5. A Statesman or a Spoiler
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:01 PM
Mar 2020

That's the choice regardless of the arguments to the contrary. Stand behind our presumptive nominee; save all ammunition for Donald Trump, his enablers and the GOP; and then win this thing big in November.

Or, take the other route diminishing our chances in November and become forever known as an obstacle, aka Spoiler.

It's either/or, nothing in-between.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. a spoiler would be if he ran as an independent, thus being in GE & draining a percent of votes
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

Like independent party general election- Jill Stein & Johnson? drained about 6% of votes away from Clinton and resulted in a trump win in several states districts.


You have to realize the only thing standing in between of the 'Republican juggernaut media attacks' on the D party candidate is Sanders. Sanders isn't going to give credence or support to the current Biden 'smears'.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

peggysue2

(11,479 posts)
13. Nice try
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders' supporters, including his senior staff are indeed giving credence and support to the current Biden smears. The Senator from Vermont put these people into motion, now he can't control them. As for his senior staff? He could fire their asses if he were so inclined. Shortly after suspending, Elizabeth Warren had a few choice words about the ugly attacks coming from the Sanders' camp, attacks on her and her own supporters. Warren's comments were neither flattering nor apologetic.

I stand by my statement:

Statesman or Spoiler. An either/or choice, no in-between.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. Today, Sanders senior staff asked for donations to charities & again I donated.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders campaign in 2 weeks is over 6 million directly to charities impacted by the corona virus disaster.

I suggest to ignore face book, twitter and really any divisive OPs. It's a known fact the other party cultivates disruption.

We have a democratic process in our elections. Every state should have their primary vote and every person should be able to cast their primary vote for who they want.

Sanders has repeatedly denounced any statements about Biden smears, said they weren't welcome in his group and Joe Biden is his friend. Joe Biden has also said Sanders is his friend.

Lets take a page from Joe Biden and from others like Obama and stop the divisiveness. They aren't calling for Sanders to quit. We're all in the same party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dansolo

(5,385 posts)
23. He has the Greens for that
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 06:11 AM
Apr 2020

His plan is to stay in as long as possible so his supporters don't have a chance to move on from him. He'll still be the spoiler, even if he's not on the ballot in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(11,479 posts)
6. Kick and Recommend, btw
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
22. Mahalo, Peggysue!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

StaySafe out there!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. Vermont senator Bernie Sanders has called for $2,000 in monthly payment to every U.S. househ
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020
Vermont senator Bernie Sanders has called for $2,000 in monthly payment to every U.S. household. This call/debate is on the government floor so please, it's not just talk. The man works in a positive direction for us.

I'm a member of Yangs "Humanity Forward" movement, he's emailing the updates on what legislation is currently being worked on in congress & the senate.

Along with Sanders several others work on the same legislation although the republicans (typically lol) want government 'monetary help' to be a one time payment and to less people.

Notability along with Sanders stand Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Rep. Tim Ryan, Rep. Ro Khanna and even Republican Romney calls for 1k a month for all citizens to start immediately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
10. BS LOST.. The Voters Rejected him & his Agenda & he Spent 4x
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:24 PM
Mar 2020

More $$$$ to do It than Joe Biden did to WIN.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. He hasn't lost until the fat lady sings the delegate 1991 song (everyone has their vote)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:44 PM
Mar 2020

Joe Biden will probably win the D nomination, he will make a good president. He reminds me of my Dad I really don't care about the money spent, seems enough to pay their bills.

On the positive side for Joe Biden he has several really wealthy persons willing to help his campaign. He won't be hurting for money. A lot of online stuff is 'free' to use.

In my dreams even in the election where Clinton ran, I wished Sanders was selected for VP. She almost did that, Sanders/Clinton campaigns worked together for over 2 weeks on that VP 'issue'. It is my firm belief we'd have President Clinton today if she did. I think it was a mistake for Biden to exclude a gender from his VP choice so early in his campaign.

Anyway, don't worry the D party candidate has my vote. Live Long and Prosper.. /salute!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(305,440 posts)
14. Yes BS Has Lost.. there's No Mathematical Path for BS.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:52 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
19. Bernie? VP?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:45 PM
Mar 2020

That would never work for many reasons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. Biden has already excluded a gender so no worries needed. Clinton would be a good VP choice.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:53 PM
Mar 2020

Biden should pick Hillary as VP. He did state recently, he will pick a VP "ready to be President".
Hillary Clinton is ready to be president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
11. He needs to tell his loyal inner circle
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020

meaning his well-meaning wife mostly, who is no doubt convinced that Bernie has been done wrong by the man, that they may well be right, but duty calls for him to pack it up. And then he needs to pack it up.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
18. It takes hard work to get a major bill passed and that means working inside your party
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:43 PM
Mar 2020

In the real world, no one in congress is going to be paying attention to sanders unless and until sanders is able to generate his magical voter revolution in the real world. I admit that I never considered sanders to be a serious candidate and never understood sanders appeal. sanders has no significant legislative accomplishments in his time in Congress in large part because sanders never bothered to attempt to get his fellow members of congress to support his programs. In the real world, it takes hard work and getting along with people to get major legislation passed. I was not surprised with sanders admitted that he does not try to get along with his fellow members of congress and that he was not good at pleasantries



I agree with the NYT description of their decision not to endorse sanders in that sanders is too inflexible and that he is not able to compromise. Compromise is key to getting legislation adopted in the real world


I admit that i do not understand sanders magical voter revolution that sanders claims will enable him to get his agenda adopted. I do not believe in magic and I have seen no evidence that sanders has a magical voter revolution.

Here is on one more question


Merely announcing a proposal is meaningless in the real world One needs votes to get a major piece of legislation adopted and sanders has not shown that he can do this in the real world

How is sanders going to get anyone in Congress to pay attention to this proposal without his magical voter revolution?

I like the real world and in the real world magic does not work. I doubt that the real world is taking sanders all that seriously
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. That helps to explain a lot and why he has so few legislative accomplishments...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 06:52 AM
Apr 2020
I was not surprised with sanders admitted that he does not try to get along with his fellow members of congress and that he was not good at pleasantries
That helps to explain a lot and why he has so few legislative accomplishments of his own. So in that regard, he's not a very good politician and the record itself shows that he's been lackluster in the things that he has actually been able to accomplish.

According to Hillary's recent Hulu documentary: "Nobody likes him..."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-clinton-debuts-hulu-doc-at-sundance-addresses-bernie-sanders-comments-1272839

Shortly after THR's in-depth interview with Clinton was published on Tuesday, her comments about Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders — "Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done," she says in the documentary — prompted the hashtag #nobodylikeshim to quickly became a top trend on Twitter.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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