Your choice is

psychopath and his merry band of inept crazies

or

Biden and the Adults in the Room


If you choose anything other than B for any reason at this point you are a complete momo. Your arguments have become completely invalid and you need to find the nearest corner and sit your ass in it.

I would rather not move right but there will be no choice with Sanders staying in too long to bury the hard feelings of Sanders supporters.

wouldn't even get off their asses and vote for Bernie if he got the nomination.

Sanders in his colossal egotism conflates support for certain policy goals with desire for him to be the leader of a movement to achieve those goals.

This is nonesense.

Even leaving aside the fact that most of those goals are general among Democratic voters and enjoy broad support among Democratic office-holders and Party officials, virtually no one, not even among Sanders' supporters, thinks he can actually achieve them should he come to hold the highest office in the land.

Expressions of support for Sanders are made as a marker of political orientation. Expressing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.

People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread among Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.

In short, while Sanders imagines himself to be the indispensable man, an overwhelming majority of Democratic voters are clear in their minds that Sanders is quite dispensable, and are determined to see him disposed of, as soon as possible.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

see the internecine online war of words between the Sanders supporters and the supporters Tulsi Gabbard. There will always be a candidate that the coolest of cool kids will rally behind.

Sort of like those that only like the most obscure foreign film.

The best bar band in town gets a record contract, and instantly it's a bunch of sell-out hacks nobody can bear to hear....

I would have been worried with anyone else but Biden. Move over Teflon Don.. we have our own Teflon Joe.

While BS supporters like to demand that we suck up to them to convince them to vote Biden in November, what is ignored is how that what you lose in the small number of BS supporters who might vote for Trump or Green Party, you gain in independents and Never Trump Republicans who would like a President who not as overtly corrupt as Trump. Think of David Brooks, George Will, etc., who hate Donald Trump and have renounced the Republican party.

This is not about ideology. If we had Democratic equivalent of Trump who was a racist that scapegoated immigrants, attacked a free media, was narcissistic, who engaged in nepotism and diverted government and campaign resources for his own personal benefit, who sucked up to authoritarian governments, who turned his back on allies, and who was not prepared for a crisis, then I would consider voting for a somewhat mainstream Republican like Jack Kemp, Bob Dole, etc., just to protect our Democracy. Of course, most such Republicans, have long since been kicked out.

I think that Biden would be able to capture the vote of folks who may not agree with Democratic platform, but love their country and want to return to rule of law. Of course, they might get turned off by another person who fashions themself as an outsider running against the "establishment" and promising revolution and to drain the swamp, which often just leads to dictatorship and corruption.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/03/never-trump-maybe-bernie-118981

I knew Sanders in no way could beat trump.

He missed his opportunity to be something this election cycle and he blew it. Sanders can take his supporters & slither into obscurity. With the changes in the demographics this election, they are not needed and in my opinion not even wanted. It's time for the grown-ups to take over.

...100% of the vote of his primary competitors.

I'm sure Trump didn't get all the Kasich, Rubio, and Cruz voters. Obama did not get all the Hillary voters. George W Bush probably didn't get all the McCain voters, and so on.

They will not do any good.

There are way more votes to be had in the center than going ultra left.

No concessions to Bernie -- NONE

The facts are that 25% of sanders supporters helped to elect trump by either voting for trump, voting for a third party candidate like Stein (who like sanders was supported by Russia) or stayed home

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