Democratic Primaries

applegrove

(123,525 posts) Sat Apr 4, 2020, 06:50 PM Apr 2020

Some top Sanders advisers urge him to consider withdrawing

Some top Sanders advisers urge him to consider withdrawing

By Sean Sullivan at the Washington Post

April 4, 2020 at 6:56 p.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-top-sanders-advisers-urge-him-to-consider-withdrawing/2020/04/04/224d8164-767f-11ea-85cb-8670579b863d_story.html

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A small group of Bernie Sanders’s top aides and allies — including his campaign manager and his longtime strategist — have encouraged the independent senator from Vermont to consider withdrawing from the presidential race, according to two people with knowledge of the situation.

The group includes campaign manager Faiz Shakir and Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), a top Sanders surrogate and ally, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive private discussions.

Sanders himself has become more open to the prospect of dropping out, according to one of the people with knowledge of the situation and another close ally, especially if he suffers a significant defeat in Tuesday’s Wisconsin primary, which polls suggest Joe Biden will win handily.

Beyond Shakir and Jayapal, longtime strategist Jeff Weaver has privately made a case that exiting the race more quickly and on good terms with Biden would give Sanders more leverage in the long run, according to one of the people; the other said Weaver has used a light touch in presenting his case. Weaver and Jayapal did not return calls and messages seeking comment. Shakir declined to comment.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Some top Sanders advisers urge him to consider withdrawing (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2020 OP

Consider? There's no considering-- bow out as a hero and try to get some influence in a... TreasonousBastard Apr 2020 #1

Good ! stonecutter357 Apr 2020 #2

There is a role for Bernie in the next Senate. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #3

It is time. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #4

Wait. His campaign manager wants him to drop out? mcar Apr 2020 #5

True, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #7

One wonders why one would stay in a job mcar Apr 2020 #8

They May Not Stay, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #11

Interesting about Weaver mcar Apr 2020 #13

The pig headed ..... exboyfil Apr 2020 #6

He's "assessing". George II Apr 2020 #9

Can they overcome his ego DenverJared Apr 2020 #10

So He's Open To Dropping Out? Bernie Has Shown His True Colors - Dems Better Not Ever Forget It n/t Indykatie Apr 2020 #12

Hope hope hope! Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #14

Jeff Weaver has privately made a case that exiting the race more quickly and on good terms with JB.. Cha Apr 2020 #15

Another few days and there will no longer be any "good terms" left. George II Apr 2020 #16

And, I don't think he cares.. surprised Cha Apr 2020 #17

I like Jayapal. I hope he listens... nt Blasphemer Apr 2020 #18

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)

1. Consider? There's no considering-- bow out as a hero and try to get some influence in a...

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 06:55 PM

Apr 2020

Biden adminisratation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

stonecutter357

(12,779 posts)

2. Good !

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 06:57 PM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

OAITW r.2.0

(28,558 posts)

3. There is a role for Bernie in the next Senate.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:03 PM

Apr 2020

I think Biden/Warren would be an awesome ticket. Had Bwenie can make his mark on Senate lrgislation that Joe will sign into law.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)

4. It is time.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:03 PM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

mcar

(43,612 posts)

5. Wait. His campaign manager wants him to drop out?

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:05 PM

Apr 2020

Tell me again why A. Bernie is still in this. B. Why the campaign manager is still running the campaign?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)

7. True, Ma'am

Reply to mcar (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:07 PM

Apr 2020

Resignation of his chief staffers might drive reality home to the man....

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

mcar

(43,612 posts)

8. One wonders why one would stay in a job

Reply to The Magistrate (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:15 PM

Apr 2020

that you have declared is a losing proposition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)

11. They May Not Stay, Ma'am

Reply to mcar (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:30 PM

Apr 2020

Weaver might, he is Sanders' creature, raised up from chauffeur and comics collector to his present eminence. He likely has little prospect of employment in any other political campaign. Some of the others may have, however, and dissuading Sanders from doing further harm would be something to offer as token of Party loyalty to potential future employers. Failing that, abandoning Sanders' campaign at the rght and crippling time might serve for a credential....

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

mcar

(43,612 posts)

13. Interesting about Weaver

Reply to The Magistrate (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 08:12 PM

Apr 2020

I think they've all hitched their stars to this wagon, so to speak. Where else are they going to go?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

exboyfil

(18,023 posts)

6. The pig headed .....

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:07 PM

Apr 2020

History will remember his obstinence if the Wisconsin primary leads to more transmissions. It is a far worse replay of 2016. Weakening the only chance we have for recovery. Isn't it enough that that 37 year old ahole is now going onto the second most important Court in the US. That f---er is going to be with us for two generations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

9. He's "assessing".

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:17 PM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DenverJared

(457 posts)

10. Can they overcome his ego

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:22 PM

Apr 2020

and David Sirota, Nina Turner and BJG's desire to continue gravy flowing even though the meat is finished?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Indykatie

(3,853 posts)

12. So He's Open To Dropping Out? Bernie Has Shown His True Colors - Dems Better Not Ever Forget It n/t

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:31 PM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(34,793 posts)

14. Hope hope hope!

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 08:44 PM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(305,763 posts)

15. Jeff Weaver has privately made a case that exiting the race more quickly and on good terms with JB..

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 08:46 PM

Apr 2020

Beyond Shakir and Jayapal, longtime strategist Jeff Weaver has privately made a case that exiting the race more quickly and on good terms with Biden would give Sanders more leverage in the long run, according to one of the people; the other said Weaver has used a light touch in presenting his case. Weaver and Jayapal did not return calls and messages seeking comment. Shakir declined to comment.

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