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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:17 PM Apr 2020

One good thing about having Biden as the presumptive nominee right now...

...is that he's pretty much universally known. With the media attention decidedly off the 2020 race, had we nominated anyone other than Biden at this point, we'd be losing crucial time building up a positive, solid narrative about our candidate.

People pretty much know Joe. It's why I think he's been able to sustain his lead vs Trump in the polls despite seeing much less TV time. A more unknown candidate might be able to, too, with how Trump has handled all this but I don't think it's near the sure thing since, in times of crisis, it's normal to look for a stable voice - but more importantly, a familiar voice and name.

An unknown voice, no matter how competent, may have been completely drown out by this. Even more, it's almost as if we don't need Biden to prove his competence. Fair or not, his name, the association with being Obama's VP, tells us of that competence so he really doesn't need to sell the idea he's competent to a vast majority of this country like other candidates would unfortunately have to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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One good thing about having Biden as the presumptive nominee right now... (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 OP
The Orange One has been sucking up all of the media air with his "briefings" leftieNanner Apr 2020 #1
Long Con Don isn't capable of that kind of introspection. bluescribbler Apr 2020 #2
What Scares Me Is.... sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #3
That's polling. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #6
Voters are slow to move. Hoover in 1932, after 4 inept years, following pimps Harding and empedocles Apr 2020 #7
Yes. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #4
You have made an excellent point her DI leftieNanner Apr 2020 #5
Gov Cuomo does a pretty good job of filling air time. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #12
Joe is doing quite well grabbing attention. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #8
Yes we are lucky to have a decent person quality candidate in Joe musclecar6 Apr 2020 #9
We already know of Joes's competence & readiness to be president from day 1 onetexan Apr 2020 #10
Trust peggysue2 Apr 2020 #11
 

leftieNanner

(15,729 posts)
1. The Orange One has been sucking up all of the media air with his "briefings"
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:20 PM
Apr 2020

But that's not necessarily a good thing for him. Where he looks and sounds like a completely incompetent idiot, Joe has shown himself to be everything we could want in a leader.

Be careful what you wish for, Donnie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluescribbler

(2,265 posts)
2. Long Con Don isn't capable of that kind of introspection.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:23 PM
Apr 2020

It's just not in his psychological makeup.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sfstaxprep

(10,599 posts)
3. What Scares Me Is....
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:24 PM
Apr 2020

He's sounded like a completely Incompetent IDIOT for 39 Months, and still manages to get 40-45% support no matter what.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,850 posts)
6. That's polling.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:49 PM
Apr 2020

So many don’t respond to polls.
Polls can be push polls.
I have never been polled and no one I know has been. There’s a lot of us out there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. Voters are slow to move. Hoover in 1932, after 4 inept years, following pimps Harding and
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:50 PM
Apr 2020

Cooledge, with 25% unemployment and mostly single earner large families, stocks down 90% or so -

Hoover in 1932 got 40% of the vote. [Voters did get better in the following years].

[trump here has a big, fast, drop' market; the virus not yet played out, and treason stuff lurking in the wings]

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
4. Yes.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:26 PM
Apr 2020

And had our nominee not been universally known, it's possible they're struggling against that message no matter how poor it is because sometimes people default to the only voice they know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leftieNanner

(15,729 posts)
5. You have made an excellent point her DI
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

We are fortunate to have a nominee who is well known and respected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,811 posts)
12. Gov Cuomo does a pretty good job of filling air time.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 03:48 PM
Apr 2020

He can out-talk Prez Donny any day. He could give Hugo Chavez a run for his money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,850 posts)
8. Joe is doing quite well grabbing attention.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:51 PM
Apr 2020

Very pleased with how Joe is responding.

We are lucky to have him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
9. Yes we are lucky to have a decent person quality candidate in Joe
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

On his worst day, he is so far ahead of the world’s laughing stock, it’s not even close. That said, it’s concerning how many donkeys can’t see thru this guy or if they can, they are just as bad as he is and don’t care.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,911 posts)
10. We already know of Joes's competence & readiness to be president from day 1
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020

So any question about that is moot. He is by far the most qualified, the most fit, the most deserving person to raise that all-important officeback to the level of dignity and respect it needs. We need a true leader, not an embecile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(11,508 posts)
11. Trust
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 03:47 PM
Apr 2020

Sounds almost quaint in the Trump era but people trust Joe Biden. They trust he knows what to do and how to do it. They trust his expertise and knowledge after many years as a public servant and having served as Obama's wingman. More importantly, they trust Biden's heart, his basic decency.

After 3+ years of having a faux-president, the current Squatter-in-Chief, the Conman/Thug extraordinaire, people hunger for actual leadership, a captain to take the wheel and navigate the Ship of State away from the treacherous shoals of deceit, disinformation and malignant, willful ignorance.

And yes, Joe Biden is a known quantity. He doesn't need to introduce himself to the American public because he's been a mainstay in politics for decades. Uncle Joe, Riding' with Biden, the No Malarkey Express. Corny but comfortable. I've always thought of a Biden presidency as a transitional step, the one we needed to put the train back on the track so we could get onto the urgent needs of the country, the world. But who knows? He might surprise us. In a good way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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