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Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:41 PM Apr 2020

There is no difference, she said

An acquaintance on Facebook is having a meltdown today. She posted that no one can tell her the difference between Trump and Biden.

I suggested that she isn’t even asking the question. Even when I’ve tried to post something on her page to dispute a point she was making, she deleted it. For example, she said Joe was nowhere to be found for a Covid response. I showed her a link where he was indeed addressing the issue. She deleted it and told me not to post such positive things about Biden on her timeline because it upsets her. And then deleted my post.

So when she posted today that no one could tell her a difference, I said I’d try but she would delete me, and that I didn’t believe she was really asking that question if anyone.

Her response?

“HE’S A RACIST RAPIST!!! THERE’S NO COMING BACK FROM THAT!!!“

Makes me wonder where she gets her news and who she listens to. I can see how such an allegation might upset her, but you have to believe them first.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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There is no difference, she said (Original Post) Kerrycrat Apr 2020 OP
There is a lot of that going on in reddit right now. These are either bots or mucifer Apr 2020 #1
I know she's not a bot Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #4
She sounds like a low-info dolt to me. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #10
Echo chamber seems more likely Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #15
It's a common personality problem leading to low information. Hortensis Apr 2020 #23
Time to pull the plug on that one. Some people are just hopeless The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
Facebook padah513 Apr 2020 #3
Don't worry about it. You can fix stupid. She'll never come around. brush Apr 2020 #5
I wonder if she would have ever voted for a Dem Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #8
Racist rapist? Talking about trump? Walleye Apr 2020 #6
And now she's disgusted with me Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #7
I was sexually assaulted and injured badly, I spent three weeks in the hospital so spare me. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #11
I'm sorry you went through that Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #14
Right I believe most women tell the truth...but these poltiical types...no. And they make it Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #17
Sorry to hear it. Hope you are able to find some trust and peace. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #26
It was quite a while ago...I never used to be able to even discuss it didn't tell hubs Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #29
Luv you. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #30
Luv you back...I look forward to all of your posts... Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #32
Please ignore such people...and stop posting about it...we don't need to read about it here. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #9
I'm processing Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #12
Sorry...I get it now...it is hard to lose a friend over politics. I do not discuss politics of any Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #18
That's why the block function exists relayerbob Apr 2020 #13
She unfriended me Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #16
Oh well relayerbob Apr 2020 #21
I'm seeing the exact "racist rapist" language a lot recently. What crap. themaguffin Apr 2020 #19
Echo chamber Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #20
I think you handled it well. dustyscamp Apr 2020 #28
Sanders supporter. LizBeth Apr 2020 #22
Obviously. "no one can tell her the difference between Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
+1 LizBeth Apr 2020 #25
I would mute them somehow ibegurpard Apr 2020 #27
This what happens... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #31
I ask you why are you spreading this ugly FB crap on DU? Cha Apr 2020 #33
A few reasons and a couple thoughts Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #34
 

mucifer

(24,728 posts)
1. There is a lot of that going on in reddit right now. These are either bots or
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:42 PM
Apr 2020

people who won't vote. None of them like trump. Of course in a few months they might come to their senses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
4. I know she's not a bot
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020

She’s very passionate and also somewhat troubled.

But I do wonder if those who say they won’t vote now would have voted for a Democrat anyway if it wasn’t Bernie

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
10. She sounds like a low-info dolt to me.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:05 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
15. Echo chamber seems more likely
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:13 PM
Apr 2020

She doesn’t listen to anyone or anything she disagrees with

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. It's a common personality problem leading to low information.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:43 PM
Apr 2020

She found the politics to fit her needs, or they found her, and since avoided information that didn't suit, which as her ideology hardened came to include most political reality. Now any statement that contradicts her belief system is immediately recognized for what it is -- a lie meant to deceive and its purveyor at best a deluded fool not worth listening to. Like my reaction when someone sincerely suggested I read Ann Coulter to understand myself (liberals).

I don't know if Sanders is capable of guilt for his role he's played in the lives of those most vulnerable to his messages, or if he truly believes he's enlightened them, but I despise him for it anyway. He didn't create their dispositions, but some of these people are never going to recover even to what they were before 2015. Others will make sure of that. This one will never get the counseling she needs to get her feet back on the ground, and her anguish that is so completely unnecessary and unjustified is likely to color her world view and flare every election season, possibly for the rest of her life.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,154 posts)
2. Time to pull the plug on that one. Some people are just hopeless
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:43 PM
Apr 2020

and it's a waste of time to argue with them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,104 posts)
5. Don't worry about it. You can fix stupid. She'll never come around.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
8. I wonder if she would have ever voted for a Dem
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:02 PM
Apr 2020

If the “Dem” wasn’t Bernie

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(34,964 posts)
6. Racist rapist? Talking about trump?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020

Seems some folks will believe any outrageous lie if it fits into their fictional view of reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
7. And now she's disgusted with me
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:01 PM
Apr 2020

For being pro-Biden all this time.
Just disgusted. Well yeah, if she believes what she believes I’m sure I’m disgusting to her.

But I haven’t been pro Biden this whole time. He’s maybe my third or fourth choice. I was a Pete person. Can’t say that though because she was part of a group called “Queers against Pete”

Reading her day to day posts tells me that there might be some metoo in her past. So I get why she would feel strongly. But you have to believe the allegations first.

But it’s been evident for a while that Bernie was not going to be the nominee. And her reaction today tells me she hadn’t digested that yet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
11. I was sexually assaulted and injured badly, I spent three weeks in the hospital so spare me.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:06 PM
Apr 2020

I am tired of what happened to me and many other women being used for political purposes-they make it more difficult for folks to believe the true victims...Biden never raped anyone and I would unfriend anyone who posted that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
14. I'm sorry you went through that
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:11 PM
Apr 2020

It’s too late for me to unfriend her. She unfriended me first.

What I get sick of is men trying to shame me into believing an allegation because #me too. I don’t need the mansplaining frankly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
17. Right I believe most women tell the truth...but these poltiical types...no. And they make it
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

worse for women like me...and I survived...I am lucky to be alive. I went to therapy and put it behind me...but I never discussed it outside of therapy. And really it was still there festering. Me Too brought it all back. But I am OK. Posting here was therapeutic also. I lived through it; got my life back and have had a great life...married the best guy in the world...and had four wonderful kids. I am one of the lucky ones. And I would say if any here are spreading the Tara BS lie online, consider the damage she does to women who are less likely to be believed by those who will use this woman as an example of why women shouldn't be believed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,721 posts)
26. Sorry to hear it. Hope you are able to find some trust and peace.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 04:43 PM
Apr 2020

Good vibes sent always.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
29. It was quite a while ago...I never used to be able to even discuss it didn't tell hubs
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:29 PM
Apr 2020

well until this year...but honestly, I am at peace at this point. My parents were not helpful as to them it was a shameful thing and friends and family were told I was in a car accident...my own sister never knew for ten years. But now I am open about it and hope to help others. One thing my parents did right was to send me to an awesome psychiatrist. She helped me through it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
32. Luv you back...I look forward to all of your posts...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:52 PM
Apr 2020

Thanks for your support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
9. Please ignore such people...and stop posting about it...we don't need to read about it here.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:04 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
12. I'm processing
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:07 PM
Apr 2020

And wanted to discuss.

You could skip the post if you don’t Want to participate.

I would suggest that an echo chamber like the one she lives in is a bad idea no matter the candidate.

We will need to build bridges now to at least some Bernie folk. Not her obviously. But some

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
18. Sorry...I get it now...it is hard to lose a friend over politics. I do not discuss politics of any
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:27 PM
Apr 2020

sort on face book only twitter but I will warn folks be careful... if some of them figure out who you are it is bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,962 posts)
13. That's why the block function exists
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:07 PM
Apr 2020

I use it freely on idiots like that

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
16. She unfriended me
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:14 PM
Apr 2020

So no need.

I do wish I’d have had a chance to do the “you can’t fire me, I quit” thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,962 posts)
21. Oh well
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:06 PM
Apr 2020

At least you do't have to deal with her any more. I had an argument with some idiot that did the "both parties are the same" crap on me today, but at least I got the last word before blocking his useless ass, lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

themaguffin

(4,160 posts)
19. I'm seeing the exact "racist rapist" language a lot recently. What crap.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
20. Echo chamber
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020

I couldn’t say anything even remotely positive to her about Biden, even to counteract an actual untruth.

She hates him. Everything he does is wrong, every allegation correct. No discussion

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dustyscamp

(2,300 posts)
28. I think you handled it well.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020

Instead of blocking first, you tried to open their eyes to the truth. We should all be trying to do that, to bring back some sanity to these people. It doesn't matter if it's useless to do, there is still a chance you could get some of them to snap out of it down the line and that would be good enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Obviously. "no one can tell her the difference between
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 04:24 PM
Apr 2020

Trump and Biden." That didn't come from RW mind-twisters. It Sanders' constant Dem'd-Repubs message.

Kerrycrat might do her a favor and give her the address of JPR in case she's not already there, or some other nest of angry hair-pullers and teeth-gnashers. Promising to leave the Democratic Party "again." Oh, please. Trumpster-ish hypocrites and liars who will never realize it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,839 posts)
27. I would mute them somehow
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 04:49 PM
Apr 2020

Whatever Facebook's tools are for that. There's no point in trying to dissuade someone who has made up their mind regardless of actual facts

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,300 posts)
31. This what happens...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:08 PM
Apr 2020

When the candidate refuses to keep nutjob supporters in check.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(304,710 posts)
33. I ask you why are you spreading this ugly FB crap on DU?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:55 PM
Apr 2020

If we want to see that.. we can go to the ******* political cesspool of FB.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
34. A few reasons and a couple thoughts
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:47 PM
Apr 2020

1. Processing what was going on and wanting to discuss with intelligent folk. There seem to be a plethora of those here for the most part.

2 This is one of the few places I know where the majority of people here are Biden folk. So it was a safe place to discuss such things

3. Free country

4. You could have skipped the thread

5. I’m sure not everyone has the same aversion to FB that you do. So I’m not sure who the “we” refers to unless a. You have a mouse 🐭 in your pocket, or b. You’re royalty 👑

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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