So tired of BS, I can't stand to see Larry David.

Same here

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

Ps: Glad to have you back

to the place he has spent most of his career

Will try again after a suitable cooling off period.

relate.. I won't even click it on. Noooo.. I can't.

And.. lol it really wasn't that much.

More than enough.

is exactly the same line he kept repeating during the 2016 general election.

How about "I will do everything in my power TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS ELECTED"?

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287673175

Well, he also claimed that he "worked as hard as he could" to help Hillary after the convention... but we know that's not entirely true.

But I guess it's a bit subjective. Indeed it may HAVE been "as hard as he could" ... perhaps because he wasn't capable (physically or emotionally or otherwise) of doing more. But both he and his defenders often cite his claim as if it was some sort of NEW RECORD-BREAKING STANDARD of excellence to which future campaign rivals will be judged.

However, in comparison with what Hillary did for her former rival in 2008, it's clear that Bernie's "efforts" were somewhat lackluster and perfunctory (at best... and I'm being polite and generous in using those specific adjectives.)

I recently found this side-by-side comparison that someone did. It reveals a lot when you can look at the data... and the data tells a significantly different story than the "hard as I could" claim.

All I'm trying to say is that it's important that we be entirely honest when examining someone's claims about their own performance. The American people deserve to know the truth and it's not always a good idea to accept someone's own boasting without closer examination and comparison. That's fair, isn't it?

Link to tweet

Same thing.. well, no ya didn't.

Excellent post.. Thank You!

Ha!.. I already Retweeted that one. Good it's in my stash.

I had forgotten this until recently, but I recall reading in 2016 that until the last month or so of the campaign, Hillary was reluctant to have Bernie be too prominent as a supporter. I think she was the one who chose not to have more joint events with him, and I read recently that he cut an ad for her in 2016 that she decided not to use. I don't know what the ad was or why she didn't use it, but my guess is she calculated the political cost to being associated too heavily with a self-declared socialist outweighed the potential benefit. In 2008, that wasn't the case because she and Obama had similar ideological stances, and the divide was more about identity politics than issues.

His "rallies" were mostly about himself with a perfunctory "oh, vote-for-Hillary" as a postscript at the end. It was clear in Hillary's book "What Happened" that she was less than impressed with his performance and his lack of sincerity and lack of enthusiasm. When you think about what was at stake, you'd think he could have found the leadership skills and self-motivation needed to simply smile and "fake it" and play along to do everything necessary to get the Democrat elected.

I'd be very interested in learning more about the source that claims Hillary was reluctant to have Bernie campaigning for her. Like I said, every indicator is that she did want to see more of him, but she was disappointed in his lackadaisical performance and demeanor.

Even Jane got in on the action by giving her twitter followers "permission" to not vote for the Democrat... with a message that people needed to follow their heart and that the only thing that matters is that they vote. Good lord, Jane. Seriously? No... what matters is defeating the GOP, not simply "showing up" to cast a protest vote for Jill Stein.

I figured it was because she was reluctant to be associated too closely with a self-declared socialist, but you could be right that she didn't campaign with him more because she wasn't impressed with how he was campaigning.

Agree with you about Jane Sanders - I was pissed about that tweet. Overall, I don't disagree with those who said he could have done more and been less divisive - it's a big reason I didn't support him this time.

She obviously wanted and expected more. Bernie failed to deliver.

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The full ad was never used because it was panned was by focus groups.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329224-sanders-on-im-with-her-its-so-phony

His congressional career might provide a few clues to his definition of "working hard".

He is simply incapable of learning. Or he doesn't care.

means he still holding out that something may happen to Biden.

Him and his bros are so toxic.

He is out and we in our continually discussing him, as well as the media, are still pushing him.

Get thee behind me, Satan! LOL!

Want more talk abut Joe and less or even NONE about Bernie....fizzle

Meanwhile in Twitter, Bernie’s supporters
( Who we are supposed to beg) claim BS is not dropping out. He’s “suspended” his campaign. But you can still vote for him in the primaries.

One here on DU even suggested BS turn his delegates to Cuomo.

That’s some pact.

Who suggested he turn his delegates to Cuomo? That makes no sense. Cuomo has made a career of pissing off the Working Families Party and others in the state who support Bernie or are in his camp ideologically. He may be doing a good job handling the coronavirus but there is no love for Cuomo among Bernie supporters here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213258881

Star Member LakeArenal
15. Another load of BS
People have spoken. Bernie lost.
No other candidates.

I say get your pinched nose out of your ass and get with the reality.

Joe is the candidate. Your guy lost. Your second guy is totally not going to happen

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19. Yep Bernie lost.
And this means what before a convention? Perhaps Bernie should give Cuomo his delegates.
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23. Yes. In a perverse way I wish he would
Because we would never have to hear about Bernie’s words ever again.

Joe’s door would close to old Bernie.
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Governor Cuomo has actually accomplished the things that other career politicians merely talk about.

Among Cuomo's achievements BEFORE his strong, cogent, proactive response to COVID-19:

- $15/hr minimum wage
- tuition-free community college and state university
- passage of a gold-standard family leave act
- gender pay parity legislation
- the codification of Roe v Wade into state statutory law

We Democrats in NY love Cuomo.

He has done some very good things, like the ones you mentioned. But he has also made a point of trying to limit the influence of the Working Families Party, which put pressure on him to do many of those things. He and the legislature recently changed the requirements for a party to get continued ballot access to make it harder for WFP to get on the ballot.

and which were accomplished in the course of his four term with a Democratic state assembly and a Republican state senate. Third parties don't get to grab the credit for the goals Cuomo achieved in spite of divided government.

When the public campaign financing commission rewrote state election election law in 2019, small third parties were impacted. However, all 21 of those third parties can still retain ballot access if they have a showing of 2% of the general election vote. Failing that, third parties can regain a ballot line through petitions.

Bernie is almost Trumpian in this; just a step short of "I am the only one who can fix this".

Professor Warren is not asking her supporters to keep voting for her so she can have 'leverage' to disrupt at the convention, nor does anyone doubt her supporters will support the nominee of the Party, Mr. Biden, through the campaign and at the polls in November. Professor Warren was my favorite among the candidates right up to the day she retired from the contest.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Alaska Democrats are deciding their choice for the party’s presidential nominee, as just one major candidate — former Vice President Joe Biden — remains actively campaigning.

Results are expected Saturday in the party-run primary, which became an exclusively vote-by-mail affair after concerns with COVID-19 scrapped plans for in-person voting sites and pushed back the original primary date of April 4.

There are eight names on the ballot, reflecting the roster of candidates when the ballots were printed. The party plans to tabulate results on a rank-choice ballot for Biden, U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and the option of undeclared. Sanders, Warren and Gabbard have suspended their campaigns but asked to be included in the tallies, state party Chairwoman Casey Steinau said.

https://apnews.com/91f7aa23a3105b5f8461b385a5fc301e