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EarlG

(22,540 posts)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 10:47 AM Sep 2023

What's new on DU4

Last edited Tue Sep 19, 2023, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Since we began the open beta test earlier this month we've had two rounds of bug fixes, and things are going well. We still don't have a firm date for the final launch, but at this point we're hopeful that DU4 will be here sooner rather than later. In the meantime, we're opening it up again for another round of testing.

Aside from a variety of code and text fixes all across the site, here are some of the important changes we've made since the first round of testing:

LARGE FONTS
There is now an option to increase your font size in Default Mode and Night Mode. Go to My Stuff > Account Settings and scroll down to the Visual appearance section to find it.

SITE SEARCH BAR
Added in the previous round of fixes, there is now an easy way to get to site search -- click the magnifying glass icon found in the main site navigation bar at the top of every page, and site search will appear. (Only available on non-mobile devices.)

ADDITIONAL SHARE OPTIONS
The Share button at the bottom of OPs now includes additional options for sharing to Reddit, Mastodon, and Pinterest, as well as Twitter and Facebook. The new sharing options could use some additional testing so please let us know if they are working (or not) for you.

EDITORIALS & OTHER ARTICLES
This forum was originally scheduled for retirement on DU4 but after discussion with forum regulars we've decided to keep it. It is now located at Issue Forums > Editorials & Other Articles. If you want a quick link to it in your left column navigation, simply subscribe to the forum.

OTHER FIXES
Here are some other fixes of note:

  • Fixed issue with pinch-to-zoom on certain mobile devices (we hope -- please let us know if you are still having a problem with this)

  • Fixed issue with highlight tags displaying wrong color in Night Mode

  • Fixed issue with post form scrolling too far on landscape mobile devices when the virtual keyboard was touched

  • Fixed post footer buttons not displaying correctly on certain devices

  • Fixed blocked members not appearing on Topic Forums About pages

  • Fixed issue with site logo not centering on mobile devices
AND FINALLY...
Here are some useful links:
Thanks for your patience while we continue to work on DU4
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What's new on DU4 (Original Post) EarlG Sep 2023 OP
Thank you, my dear EarlG! This sounds great. Glad to have it back! ♥ nt CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2023 #1
Large Fonts! George McGovern Sep 2023 #2
Good example kiri Sep 2023 #6
That's a DU3 issue EarlG Sep 2023 #12
Thank you for all the work you and others do to keep site up and many sane.. Pepsidog Sep 2023 #3
Not broken until you... kiri Sep 2023 #7
Oh my! Ptah Sep 2023 #8
Excellent job - love the "Skinner mode" walkingman Sep 2023 #4
Thank you, guys! Fonts, search, "Editorials etc," all appreciated. Hortensis Sep 2023 #5
THANK YOU for the large fonts! YAY!! TygrBright Sep 2023 #9
Hard to pinpoint this one EarlG Sep 2023 #17
Yes, I kind of figured it might be a browser config issue on my end, thanks. TygrBright Sep 2023 #18
Best comment EVER on "DU4 features list page" FakeNoose Sep 2023 #10
hee hee Kali Sep 2023 #11
Oops EarlG Sep 2023 #13
Hurray for large fonts. I'm hunting for Editorials so I can subscribe, but need a link Hekate Sep 2023 #14
Found it... Hekate Sep 2023 #16
Thanks for the continued work on du4, and updates. thanks electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #15
I have Skinner mode on. piddyprints Sep 2023 #19
A couple of questions EarlG Sep 2023 #20
It's fixed! piddyprints Sep 2023 #21
Glad it worked! EarlG Sep 2023 #22
I remember well from my programming days. piddyprints Sep 2023 #24
The styling is still rough Random Boomer Sep 2023 #23
I can't reccomend an original post, but can reccomend the replies. AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2023 #25
Please be more specific EarlG Sep 2023 #26
Can we have a "Latest Discussions" link on the home page piddyprints Sep 2023 #27
The "Enter Discussion Forums" link EarlG Sep 2023 #29
I know. piddyprints Sep 2023 #30
Perhaps SpamWyzer Sep 2023 #28
Why? DownriverDem Sep 2023 #31
Quite a lot of work - cilla4progress Sep 2023 #32

George McGovern

(6,047 posts)
2. Large Fonts!
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 11:20 AM
Sep 2023

Hello EarlG. Thank You for the new option to choose Large Fonts. My old eyes sure do appreciate it!
George McGovern

kiri

(883 posts)
6. Good example
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:43 PM
Sep 2023

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Now none of the youtube videos on the RHS open in DU via FF or Chrome--they work fine in Edge and usually in Brave.

My refresh icon has gone missing.

It was working; you broke it. Really, Bro, you should not do this.



kiri

(883 posts)
7. Not broken until you...
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:52 PM
Sep 2023

TY for nothing. Had to change my default browser from FF to edge (ugh) just to open DU.
Why did you do this?

How can I restore my refresh page icon? In 30 yrs it never disappeared before DU's machinations.

Really, did you spend nites thinking about how to screw up with users? You suceeded!

Oh, user error. Blame the victim. I await the non-apology and blaming me.

And how much MONEY $$ did DU spend to achieve this fiasco? Donations from loyal followers supported this? Please explain.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
9. THANK YOU for the large fonts! YAY!!
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 01:45 PM
Sep 2023

FWIW, I have no trouble logging into DU and/or viewing fora on Firefox, Epic, Opera, Aviator, or Edge.

However, when I click on a post in the "Video & Multimedia" forum in Firefox, I had to manually disable various NoScript blocks, and then reload the page 2x to get the video to show and run. Also, in Firefox the embed window is very small compared to the other browsers, and the "My Notes" button very large.

I hope this is helpful information.

Thank you AGAIN for the excellent large fonts!

appreciatively,
Bright

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
17. Hard to pinpoint this one
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 09:43 AM
Sep 2023

I can't reproduce what you're seeing in Firefox. Video embeds and the My Notes button look normal.

If you're using content blockers then there's always a chance they could mess up the layout in a way that isn't intended. However, that would potentially only affect layout issues (like getting a small embed window instead of the correctly sized version).

When it comes to the NoScript blocks and having to reload the page to see the video, that doesn't sound like a layout issue. When you open a thread with an embedded video, the video is loaded into your browser directly from the source (YouTube) in an iframe. Inside that iframe is YouTube content, not DU content, so if you're getting errors at that point it's most likely to do with the way your browser configuration is handling the direct connection between your browser and YouTube.

But like I said, unfortunately this kind of thing is difficult to pinpoint, because we can't account for all the different browser extensions and custom configurations that people use when they're browsing the Internet.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
18. Yes, I kind of figured it might be a browser config issue on my end, thanks.
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 12:07 PM
Sep 2023

Firefox has a lot of available plugins, etc. and updates every 3-4 days. Keeping its configuration optimized for one thing leaves security vulnerabilities for other things, and so forth. One reason why I only use it for a couple of things, and have Epic as my primary browser.

It's just a guess, but the other people having difficulties with Firefox are experiencing some of the same problems.

I don't know if there's a way designers can accommodate all of Firefox's myriad options... but I imagine you guys have done your best to optimize it.

helpfully,
Bright

Hekate

(94,623 posts)
14. Hurray for large fonts. I'm hunting for Editorials so I can subscribe, but need a link
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 02:53 PM
Sep 2023

I’ll keep looking, in any case, until the goes on in my brain.


piddyprints

(14,815 posts)
19. I have Skinner mode on.
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 06:22 PM
Sep 2023

Looks good on my iPhone and MacBook, but the font is tiny on my iPad. Tried turning on large fonts just for goofs, even though it says it doesn’t work in Skinner mode. The posting window looks normal to me, at least while I’m typing this, but everything else on the page, including the preview window, has tiny fonts. Is there some reason for this?

BTW, thank you.

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
20. A couple of questions
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 07:51 PM
Sep 2023

First, I just made a small tweak to our code so please let me know if it's still happening.

Second, if it is still happening:

The DU4 font size in Skinner Mode is coded to be the exact same font size as DU3. So there are a couple of things we can check here.

1) If you look at DU3 on your iPad (the regular, current version of DU -- not the new test version), do the fonts also look too small?

2) On your iPad, do the fonts look too small on other websites, or just on DU?

piddyprints

(14,815 posts)
21. It's fixed!
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 08:09 PM
Sep 2023

Thank you!

I’ll answer the questions anyway.

1) DU3 looks fine. I frequently have a tab open for each version for comparison.

2) The fonts look fine everywhere else.

Not sure if this matters, but I’m using Safari browser.

Thanks for the tweak!

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
22. Glad it worked!
Wed Sep 20, 2023, 08:24 PM
Sep 2023

The only problem is that I now broke something else by fixing that

No worries though, the change needed to be made, so we'll be sure to keep it.

piddyprints

(14,815 posts)
24. I remember well from my programming days.
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 07:32 AM
Sep 2023

At least you get to feel like a rock star for a few minutes.

Thank you for being so responsive.

Random Boomer

(4,249 posts)
23. The styling is still rough
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 07:01 AM
Sep 2023

I hope that the UI/styling for the new site is still under development. The comments are more difficult to scan due to excessive white space around the post text. The options at the bottom of each post are also quite bulky compared to the simple text links on the original forum. There's more scrolling required to get from one comment to another, and their relationship to each other is more difficult to follow.

Any chance we'll have an option for adding our own personal style sheet? I'd love to create my own skin so I can get fussy with details that make my reading experience easier, according to my own fussy standards for good UI (designing UI was my job before I retired).

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,884 posts)
25. I can't reccomend an original post, but can reccomend the replies.
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 03:28 PM
Sep 2023

and when I click preview and go back to post my post is gone.

I use firefox as my browser.

Thanks,

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
26. Please be more specific
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 03:37 PM
Sep 2023

What happens when you try to recommend an OP? What kind of device are you using? Did you switch to Dark Mode/Skinner Mode in Account Settings, or are you using default DU4?

As for previewing, you don’t need to go back to post. After you’ve previewed, just scroll down and use the post button at the bottom.

piddyprints

(14,815 posts)
27. Can we have a "Latest Discussions" link on the home page
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 08:04 PM
Sep 2023

Like it is everywhere else, in the grey bar at the top? Is that a big deal?

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
29. The "Enter Discussion Forums" link
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:09 PM
Sep 2023

at the top of the home page will take you to Latest Discussions, as will clicking Navigate > Latest Discussions on any page.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
28. Perhaps
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 09:25 PM
Sep 2023

you see these as improvements, and since that is a matter of taste I feel justified in saying I find it "ugly". 20 years here and I guess I like what we had. Sorry. Not meaning to disparage your efforts, but your vision isn't one I see.

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