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Rhiannon12866

(220,583 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 08:21 PM Jun 2024

'Like a sober person taking the DUI test': Nicolle on Trump bragging about cognitive test - Deadline - MSNBC



Eddie Glaude, Princeton University Professor, and Tim Miller, former spokesperson for the RNC, join Nicolle Wallace on Deadline: White House to discuss how right wing media and the Republican National Committee are using deceptive and edited videos of President Biden to cover up for the constant metal lapses of their preferred candidate who loves to brag about passing a cognitive test. - Aired on 06/17/2024.
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wnylib

(24,147 posts)
2. There's another claim in Trump's most recent story
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 11:57 PM
Jun 2024

about the cognitive ability test. In the clip, Trump not only says that he aced it, but he adds that "they" (doctors? ) were amazed and said, "Nobody's ever done that."

So he's saying that everyone who takes the test fails it and only he aced it. And people believe that?



Rhiannon12866

(220,583 posts)
3. I've been occasionally asked to remember words like that at a medical checkup and so have others I know
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 12:05 AM
Jun 2024

But it sounds like he's awfully desperate to have something to boast about...

wnylib

(24,147 posts)
4. The first time that I had to answer questions like that was
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 12:34 AM
Jun 2024

was after I had a series of TIAs (mini strokes). My answers were slow but correct.

Now that I'm older, retired, and on Medicare, those tests are part of the routine yearly exam that Medicare requires. I've recovered from those long ago TIAs and don't have any problems with the questions. But they are so simple and short that bragging about passing them would be ludicrous. They start with being given 5 words at the beginning and recalling them later after answering other questions. Another is "Draw a clock that says..." and a specific time is given.

C'mon. That's hardly a Mensa exam. Bragging about it is so pathetic. Considering Trump's usual behavior, bragging about "acing" such a test suggests to me that he does have a cognitive problem and uses the story to cover it up. We can see his cognitive performance when he speaks. There is definitely a problem.

Rhiannon12866

(220,583 posts)
5. Yikes! I'm so sorry that you experienced that, but you still answered correctly - and I've been asked the same things
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 12:51 AM
Jun 2024

Including drawing the clock - though the last couple of times they didn't bother. And I only mentioned to others because it seemed odd to me, but I learned it was apparently standard practice. And it appears we were all asked the very same things, likely because we all go to the same doctors' offices, it's a local complex with numerous doctors, testing labs, etc.

And I agree that it's not exactly a tough exam, but TFG has so little to brag about he's got to be desperate. And at least he was likely asked those questions as opposed to the usual things he likes to brag about since those are usually lies and completely made up. And he repeats the same lies so often that he may believe them at this point - as do his deluded "followers" - that's what he does.

wnylib

(24,147 posts)
6. When I answered the questions after the TIAs
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 01:42 AM
Jun 2024

the test was a little longer and was supposed to be timed. If the neurogist had stuck strictly to the timing, my score would have been lower. But he wanted to see what speech and memory areas were affected by the strokes and if I could compensate, given enough time. It gave him a better picture of how much memory damage was temporary and how much might be permanent.

There was no damage to the ability to say words. But the ability to express myself was affected by occasional memory loss of words. The brain has a remarkable ability to find alternate neural pathways to the same end, so, with a little more time, I could regain words. With practice, it got better.

Tests showed a couple precipitating factors. One was high BP, although I was on a BP med. The other was a severe vitamin D deficiency. So my BP med was changed to one that is more effective and I was on a megadose of vitamin D for a couple months. Now I take a smaller, daily dose to maintain appropriate levels. Those changes helped a lot.

Besides recalling 5 words at a later time in the testing and drawing a clock, I remember that one question was to name a specified number of words (30, I think) that begin with the letter F within a certain amount of time. (I refrained from saying the F bomb.)





Rhiannon12866

(220,583 posts)
7. Well, I'm grateful to hear that you're better now and it sounds like you have no permanent damage
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 02:05 AM
Jun 2024

I do remember that you were missing for awhile and I was asked by more than one DUer since your last reply had been to me. You were obviously missed.

And it sounds like got the care that you needed at the appropriate time. I've often wondered if we all should be examined to see if we're missing certainly vitamins or minerals. Years ago I was severely anemic and was required to see a hematologist who put me on an iron supplement (ferrous fumarate) several times a day on an empty stomach and I still hesitate to "snack."

Thanks for sharing that experience with me, sounds scary, the last thing you need during these perilous times. I have often wondered how many of us are affected by the increase in anxiety that we've experienced since 2016. But it sure helps to have DU since we know that we're far from alone and it sure helps to remain informed - though those who exist with their heads in the sand are likely less worried.


 

wnylib

(24,147 posts)
8. Those TIAs were not recent and had nothing to do with my absence
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 02:26 AM
Jun 2024

from DU. The TIAs occurred 14 years ago.

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