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Rhiannon12866

(216,726 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:27 AM Jun 18

Joe on 'cheap fake videos': Dems, Biden campaign will have to work harder to expose the lies - Morning Joe - MSNBC



White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre pushed back on a series of recent videos of President Joe Biden as she called them "cheap fakes." The Morning Joe panel discusses the recent videos and how Democrats and the Biden campaign and White House should react. - Aired on 06/18/2024.
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Walleye

(33,895 posts)
1. It doesn't matter how hard we work at exposing it and how blatantly lie. Maga would rather believe the lies, that's that
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:36 AM
Jun 18

Rhiannon12866

(216,726 posts)
2. Especially since they're created for Fox "News"
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:44 AM
Jun 18

Along with those edited to show TFG waving to massive crowds - when in reality he was waving to an empty parking lot and the cheering crowd at a Bruce Springsteen concert was edited in...

Walleye

(33,895 posts)
4. I would have thought that people might be more media sophisticated in the 21st-century. But apparently they aren't
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 08:48 AM
Jun 18

Bluepinky

(2,307 posts)
5. Even the mainstream media is on board with this disinformation campaign.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:20 AM
Jun 18

It’s so discouraging, but I can understand why. When money is your god, you’ll do anything to accrue more. It appears that old adage is true…”Money is the root of all evil.”

I’ll be seeing my MAGA sister this weekend, and the safe topics we can discuss without arguing is shrinking. It’s impossible to counter her claims that Biden is demented when even the mainstream media promotes this viewpoint. I used to be able to say that Fox News and a few others lie and disinform to push their agenda, but what happens when all the media outlets do it? It’s not just Fox anymore. And a lot of people don’t question the accuracy of what they’re fed by the media.☹️😢

ihaveaquestion

(3,006 posts)
6. Biden's campaign should create a Presidential reality show where he has a camera crew follow him around.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jun 18

Get as much real footage as possible of him doing his real job. Fill the time with interviews of real WH people doing what they do. Show how much gets done and how dedicated they are.

LetMyPeopleVote

(151,829 posts)
7. Cheapfakes get an indefensible boost from powerful GOP partisans
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jun 19

The fact that "cheapfakes" exist is a problem. The fact that powerful Republicans and conservative media outlets disseminate the content makes it worse.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/cheapfakes-get-indefensible-boost-powerful-gop-partisans-rcna157934

It was ugly, but it wasn’t unusual. The right creates low-cost “cheapfakes“ like these all the time. Indeed, within days of the deceitful video out of Italy, a similar video made the rounds among conservatives showing Biden purportedly freezing onstage at a fundraiser. In the full context, it was clear the president simply paused to take in some applause. In another recent instance, a similarly deceptive clip circulated that seemed to show the president reaching for a non-existent chair, though in reality, there was a chair.

Of course, as these clips go viral, many of the people who watch them have no idea that they’ve been deceived. Indeed, that’s the point of the effort. NBC News reported this morning on the misleading G7 video:

Google recommended false versions of the story as “top stories” and the deceptive videos continued to accumulate millions of views on X. Copies of the videos were replayed on TikTok and YouTube with little context and zero indication that they were part of a concerted disinformation campaign. Meta, the parent company of Instagram and Facebook, applied fact-checking labels to some posts but not to all.


There’s no great mystery as to the larger dynamic. Many of Biden’s critics want to focus on his age, so they disseminate cheapfakes in the hopes of fooling people. Thanks to the way online platforms often work, the scam is effective and has the intended effect. Fact-checkers try to keep up, but it’s a losing battle — in part because the avalanche of misleading videos is so intense, and in part because far more people will see the deceptive videos than the accurate reports that set the record straight.....

But there’s a dimension to this that deserves special attention.

A separate NBC News report this week highlighted the fact that the Republican National Committee and major conservative media outlets have played a key role in blasting out the deceptive videos. Fox News personalities and the New York Post, not surprisingly, are among the most notable offenders. Donald Trump, of course, has engaged in the same tactics.

And that’s the part of this that stands out for me. Those who’ve spent time online in recent years have come to recognize the benefit of being a cautious news consumer: Images are routinely photoshopped. AI is increasingly used to create deceptive content. Video clips are often taken out of context......

But therein lies the point: Biden didn’t help promote or disseminate those misleading pictures. Neither did the Democratic National Committee or news outlets popular with Democratic voters. The tactics might be bipartisan, but there’s a qualitative difference between how the parties are approaching and dealing with cheapfakes.

The line between the GOP, its media allies, and the right-wing fringe continues to blur to the point of non-existence
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