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Uncle Joe

(60,201 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 10:46 AM Sep 20

No Endorsement: Uncommitted Mvmt. Won't Back Harris, Trump or Third Party as U.S. Arms Israel



The U.S. presidential election is just 45 days away, and for antiwar voters, the policy differences between the two leading candidates are vanishingly thin. As the Biden-Harris administration continues to supply billions of dollars in military aid to Israel, the Uncommitted National Movement, which for months has attempted to steer the Democratic Party toward a more critical stance on Israel, has announced it is not endorsing Kamala Harris. Neither does the organization recommend casting a third-party vote, citing the risk of splitting the two-party vote and ushering in a second term for Donald Trump. "We were not met in good faith with our policy demands," says the Uncommitted National Movement's co-founder Lexis Zeidan about its attempts to parley with the Harris campaign. Zeidan says the organization will continue to pressure Democrats from within and outside of the party. "What we're asking is not outrageous."

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No Endorsement: Uncommitted Mvmt. Won't Back Harris, Trump or Third Party as U.S. Arms Israel (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 20 OP
RSO rso Sep 20 #1
They don't endorse *rump or a third party n/t Uncle Joe Sep 20 #2
RSO rso Sep 20 #9
They didn't say that they're not voting for Harris. Uncle Joe Sep 20 #11
RSO rso Sep 20 #13
Did you view the video? n/t Uncle Joe Sep 20 #15
its netanfuckyou that has to go. he's the problem. pansypoo53219 Sep 20 #3
Sorry to say a no vote is a vote. If they encourage Ninga Sep 20 #4
They're not stating that they're not voting. Uncle Joe Sep 20 #5
Okay, not endorsing doesn't mean not voting... Think. Again. Sep 20 #6
Not endorsing, doesn't mean not voting. Uncle Joe Sep 20 #7
That's right. Thanks (I corrected my title). Think. Again. Sep 20 #8
.. Uncle Joe Sep 20 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Sep 20 #12
Did you view the video? n/t Uncle Joe Sep 20 #14
What bullshit sarisataka Sep 20 #16

rso

(2,468 posts)
1. RSO
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 10:49 AM
Sep 20

Fuck’em, if they don’t realize that Trump would be infinitely worse for their interests than Harris, than go ahead and help Trump.

Uncle Joe

(60,201 posts)
11. They didn't say that they're not voting for Harris.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:27 AM
Sep 20

They're just not activating for any particular candidate.

They know what *rump is.

pansypoo53219

(21,751 posts)
3. its netanfuckyou that has to go. he's the problem.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:03 AM
Sep 20

and hamas, + the ayatollah.
80's pin. 'kill all the extremists' sounds really good.

Ninga

(8,620 posts)
4. Sorry to say a no vote is a vote. If they encourage
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:10 AM
Sep 20

uncommitted/ what about down ballot races?
If during these critical moments in our history to not muster up a decision and vote for a candidate that reflects your values - not a single issue - is to give up your voice and hand over your vote to those who will vote.

Uncle Joe

(60,201 posts)
5. They're not stating that they're not voting.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:13 AM
Sep 20

The no endorsement means they won't activate for a particular candidate.

They know what *rump is.

Think. Again.

(18,300 posts)
6. Okay, not endorsing doesn't mean not voting...
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:15 AM
Sep 20

...and as we've seen with Teamsters, a non-endorsement from the parent organization is more of a meaningless pollitical stand when the individuals within the organization will mostly be still voting for the candidate that serves their needs best.

Uncle Joe

(60,201 posts)
7. Not endorsing, doesn't mean not voting.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:20 AM
Sep 20

They will be voting just not activating for a particular candidate.

Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

sarisataka

(21,040 posts)
16. What bullshit
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:30 PM
Sep 20
Neither does the organization recommend casting a third-party vote, citing the risk of splitting the two-party vote and ushering in a second term for Donald Trump.

Not voting for Harris is splitting the vote. If you are not going to vote for her, go ahead and vote for Mickey Mouse or any other third party, the damage is already done.
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