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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz shares his reaction with Rachel Maddow to breaking news from the New York Times that the Pentagon plans to brief Elon Musk on the top-secret plans the U.S. has in place in the event of a potential war with China. - Aired on 03/20/2025.

Initech
(104,544 posts)God damn this administration is fucking evil and they need to be stopped at all costs!
walkingman
(9,120 posts)Phoenix61
(18,293 posts)Shipwack
(2,612 posts)China has leverage on Musk.
By Chinese law, any company that has businesses in China have to give up any information the Chineese asks of them. If they don, they lose their businesses in China.
Bye-bye Tesla factories. Bye-bye Tesla sales to the Chineese people (which are beginning to dry up anyway as cheaper, better alternatives become available). Bye-bye rare earth minerals and batteries...
He'd sell out the US for far less incentives than thoses.
But... WTAF? Isn't there ANYONE in the Pentagon pushing against this? Shouldn't this be a bridge too far for anyone other than the Joint Chief of Staff Chairman?
YepYep
(18 posts)Doesn’t Feelon have business dealings with China? Didn’t he lose a bunch of money on the stock market? Isn’t he looking to recoup his losses?
Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)Now TFG is expecting war?? And we thought he couldn't go any lower with his cruel attacks and threats on the American people...
Blue Owl
(55,989 posts)Aussie105
(6,968 posts)As well as navy and air force.
It also has something America had before WW2, but no longer has - a very healthy manufacturing and industrial complex, which could be turned on to a war footing quickly.
Sorry America, a war against China is suicide.
tulipsandroses
(7,189 posts)This is bananas.
Hekate
(97,344 posts)This beggars the imagination
or maybe, buggers the imagination
Aussie105
(6,968 posts)AKA:
'Nutz!'
'Being high on your own exhaust fumes.'
'Playing stupid games NOT expecting to win stupid prizes.'
Seriously America, pull the plug on this insanity!
Legal or otherwise, not caring too much myself.
Hekate
(97,344 posts)…of their kind has been. All that rage that’s been ginned up by trump being turned toward him.
Could happen. Don’t have a theory of that myself.
Mike 03
(18,404 posts)intelligence people simply snap--lose their fucking minds over something like this.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)The demonic clown car of fascist idiots in the Trump Administration is truly staggering, but Elon surpasses all of them in being the most foolish and dangerous. I mean this needs to be stopped. Our country is in danger and so is our military. There must still be a lot of military brass that thinks this is extremely dangerous, despite the "leadership" of that other clown Hegseth. This is the worst episode of the Apprentice ever. Our government has been taken over by a bunch of malevolent idiots and megalomaniacs.
Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)And I thought of our brave military, too. Things were bad enough for them with a bigoted vengeful Commander in Chief, but now there's an unqualified misogynist alcoholic in charge of the Pentagon.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)You are right about Trump and Hegseth. Also, I appreciate that you take the time and effort to curate and post these important video clips on a daily and nightly basis. So, thanks.
Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)And it scared the #$%! out of me as so much does these days - but I believed it given the two people who I most respect were bringing us this frightening news. I almost didn't post anything else after this bombshell, but I'm hoping we'll hear more.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)And have a good night!
Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)

Baron2024
(1,492 posts)I would add that Rachel Maddow and Tim Walz are two of my favorite people and I am glad to see them talking together on any topic, including one as serious as this.
William769
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Karasu
(1,002 posts)or whatever the fuck else. Hell, they can't decide if he's the "head" of DOGE or not. The entire GQP is bending so far over backwards for him it's ridiculous.
It's utterly ludicrous that this is happening.
KS Toronado
(21,015 posts)because of some nefarious plans he has.
Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)And we know that ol'Bone Spurs couldn't care less about our military, he already stuck the Pentagon with the unqualified misogynist alcoholic.
Walleye
(39,784 posts)It sounds extreme, but everything has been extreme. Do you think he wouldn’t love to devastate my neighborhood where Joe Biden lives?
Mike 03
(18,404 posts)Trump rendering our country totally vulnerable to anything would be him announcing that the United States is voluntarily giving up and destroying our entire nuclear weapons arsenal.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(121,998 posts)Rhiannon12866
(232,840 posts)And we know that both TFG and Musk are buddies with Putin - who would love to see the U.S. destroyed.
Mike 03
(18,404 posts)hammered and trying to "make it up to him" by granting him special access so that Musk feels important and special, on top of it being a gigantic F-U to Americans and every American who has ever served this country in any capacity, but especially in military intelligence or regular intelligence.
Or it could have been Elon Musk's idea, since he seems to just make demands and have them immediately met.
Walleye
(39,784 posts)Mike 03
(18,404 posts)reported that these stories have "multiple sources inside the Pentagon."
Thanks for posting this! I heard it on SXM radio but wanted to see it with my own eyes. I'll bet few people who heard that broadcast slept last night--I know I didn't.
EDIT: changed "multiple sources" to "multiple sources inside the Pentagon," a crucial addition to the quote.
KS Toronado
(21,015 posts)