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Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2025, 11:54 PM Mar 20

Tim Walz reacts to NYT report that Pentagon will brief Musk on secret plan for potential war with China - Rachel Maddow



Minnesota Governor Tim Walz shares his reaction with Rachel Maddow to breaking news from the New York Times that the Pentagon plans to brief Elon Musk on the top-secret plans the U.S. has in place in the event of a potential war with China. - Aired on 03/20/2025.
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Tim Walz reacts to NYT report that Pentagon will brief Musk on secret plan for potential war with China - Rachel Maddow (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Mar 20 OP
Fucking what??? Musk is EVIL af and a war with China is a war we WILL NOT WIN!!! Initech Mar 21 #1
It would be insane to have a war with China. The POTUS would have to be dumb....OOPS walkingman Mar 21 #2
Great way to pass information to China.🤬 Phoenix61 Mar 21 #3
100% correct. Shipwack Mar 21 #22
Wait a Minute YepYep Mar 21 #4
Maybe that's why they're letting him in on this so he will be "prepared?" Good Grief! Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #6
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Mar 21 #5
China has a huge army. Aussie105 Mar 21 #7
I guess he really is the Co-president tulipsandroses Mar 21 #8
Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch Hekate Mar 21 #9
"This beggars the imagination" Aussie105 Mar 21 #24
My husband has a theory that it's going to come from the hard-core red-hats who realize how deep the betrayal... Hekate Mar 21 #25
I can also envision multiple scenarios in which current and former military and Mike 03 Mar 21 #31
This Is Terrible News Baron2024 Mar 21 #10
Extremely well said, I couldn't add anything to your analysis. Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #12
You Are Right Baron2024 Mar 21 #13
Awww, thanks so much, I thought this conversation was important Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #14
Keep Up The Good Work Baron2024 Mar 21 #15
Same to you, my friend! And thanks! Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #17
I Would Add Baron2024 Mar 21 #11
OMFG! William769 Mar 21 #16
This administration itself can't even decide what his fucking role is--whether he's an "adviser", a "special employee," Karasu Mar 21 #18
I can see Putin telling trDUMB to go start a war KS Toronado Mar 21 #19
I think you must be right, who else could have that much influence over him? Besides Musk, that is, and now he's in on it Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #20
I expect Trump to give Putin a greenlight on nuking an American city such as Philadelphia Walleye Mar 21 #27
That's close to what I've been imagining... That the next logical step for Mike 03 Mar 21 #30
Was that Trump's or Kegbreath's idea? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 21 #21
Good question, they're both untrustworthy idiots who have little regard for our troops Rhiannon12866 Mar 21 #23
I'm guessing this is about Trump feeling sorry for how Musk is being Mike 03 Mar 21 #29
Putin, with maniacal grin, rubbing his hands together Walleye Mar 21 #26
Since Maddow reported this, the WSJ has corroborated, and Bloomberg Mike 03 Mar 21 #28
Do we need to start a KS Toronado Mar 21 #32

Initech

(104,544 posts)
1. Fucking what??? Musk is EVIL af and a war with China is a war we WILL NOT WIN!!!
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:05 AM
Mar 21

God damn this administration is fucking evil and they need to be stopped at all costs!

Shipwack

(2,612 posts)
22. 100% correct.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 02:41 AM
Mar 21

China has leverage on Musk.

By Chinese law, any company that has businesses in China have to give up any information the Chineese asks of them. If they don, they lose their businesses in China.

Bye-bye Tesla factories. Bye-bye Tesla sales to the Chineese people (which are beginning to dry up anyway as cheaper, better alternatives become available). Bye-bye rare earth minerals and batteries...

He'd sell out the US for far less incentives than thoses.

But... WTAF? Isn't there ANYONE in the Pentagon pushing against this? Shouldn't this be a bridge too far for anyone other than the Joint Chief of Staff Chairman?

YepYep

(18 posts)
4. Wait a Minute
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:27 AM
Mar 21

Doesn’t Feelon have business dealings with China? Didn’t he lose a bunch of money on the stock market? Isn’t he looking to recoup his losses?

Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
6. Maybe that's why they're letting him in on this so he will be "prepared?" Good Grief!
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:35 AM
Mar 21

Now TFG is expecting war?? And we thought he couldn't go any lower with his cruel attacks and threats on the American people...

Aussie105

(6,968 posts)
7. China has a huge army.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:38 AM
Mar 21

As well as navy and air force.

It also has something America had before WW2, but no longer has - a very healthy manufacturing and industrial complex, which could be turned on to a war footing quickly.

Sorry America, a war against China is suicide.

Hekate

(97,344 posts)
9. Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:49 AM
Mar 21

This beggars the imagination

or maybe, buggers the imagination

Aussie105

(6,968 posts)
24. "This beggars the imagination"
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:18 AM
Mar 21

AKA:

'Nutz!'
'Being high on your own exhaust fumes.'
'Playing stupid games NOT expecting to win stupid prizes.'

Seriously America, pull the plug on this insanity!
Legal or otherwise, not caring too much myself.

Hekate

(97,344 posts)
25. My husband has a theory that it's going to come from the hard-core red-hats who realize how deep the betrayal...
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:43 AM
Mar 21

…of their kind has been. All that rage that’s been ginned up by trump being turned toward him.

Could happen. Don’t have a theory of that myself.

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
31. I can also envision multiple scenarios in which current and former military and
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:33 AM
Mar 21

intelligence people simply snap--lose their fucking minds over something like this.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
10. This Is Terrible News
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:52 AM
Mar 21

The demonic clown car of fascist idiots in the Trump Administration is truly staggering, but Elon surpasses all of them in being the most foolish and dangerous. I mean this needs to be stopped. Our country is in danger and so is our military. There must still be a lot of military brass that thinks this is extremely dangerous, despite the "leadership" of that other clown Hegseth. This is the worst episode of the Apprentice ever. Our government has been taken over by a bunch of malevolent idiots and megalomaniacs.

Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
12. Extremely well said, I couldn't add anything to your analysis.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 01:10 AM
Mar 21

And I thought of our brave military, too. Things were bad enough for them with a bigoted vengeful Commander in Chief, but now there's an unqualified misogynist alcoholic in charge of the Pentagon.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
13. You Are Right
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 01:20 AM
Mar 21

You are right about Trump and Hegseth. Also, I appreciate that you take the time and effort to curate and post these important video clips on a daily and nightly basis. So, thanks.

Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
14. Awww, thanks so much, I thought this conversation was important
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 01:29 AM
Mar 21

And it scared the #$%! out of me as so much does these days - but I believed it given the two people who I most respect were bringing us this frightening news. I almost didn't post anything else after this bombshell, but I'm hoping we'll hear more.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
11. I Would Add
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 12:54 AM
Mar 21

I would add that Rachel Maddow and Tim Walz are two of my favorite people and I am glad to see them talking together on any topic, including one as serious as this.

Karasu

(1,002 posts)
18. This administration itself can't even decide what his fucking role is--whether he's an "adviser", a "special employee,"
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 01:51 AM
Mar 21

or whatever the fuck else. Hell, they can't decide if he's the "head" of DOGE or not. The entire GQP is bending so far over backwards for him it's ridiculous.

It's utterly ludicrous that this is happening.

Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
20. I think you must be right, who else could have that much influence over him? Besides Musk, that is, and now he's in on it
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 02:09 AM
Mar 21

And we know that ol'Bone Spurs couldn't care less about our military, he already stuck the Pentagon with the unqualified misogynist alcoholic.

Walleye

(39,784 posts)
27. I expect Trump to give Putin a greenlight on nuking an American city such as Philadelphia
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:50 AM
Mar 21

It sounds extreme, but everything has been extreme. Do you think he wouldn’t love to devastate my neighborhood where Joe Biden lives?

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
30. That's close to what I've been imagining... That the next logical step for
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:30 AM
Mar 21

Trump rendering our country totally vulnerable to anything would be him announcing that the United States is voluntarily giving up and destroying our entire nuclear weapons arsenal.

Rhiannon12866

(232,840 posts)
23. Good question, they're both untrustworthy idiots who have little regard for our troops
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 02:47 AM
Mar 21

And we know that both TFG and Musk are buddies with Putin - who would love to see the U.S. destroyed.

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
29. I'm guessing this is about Trump feeling sorry for how Musk is being
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:28 AM
Mar 21

hammered and trying to "make it up to him" by granting him special access so that Musk feels important and special, on top of it being a gigantic F-U to Americans and every American who has ever served this country in any capacity, but especially in military intelligence or regular intelligence.

Or it could have been Elon Musk's idea, since he seems to just make demands and have them immediately met.

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
28. Since Maddow reported this, the WSJ has corroborated, and Bloomberg
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:25 AM
Mar 21

reported that these stories have "multiple sources inside the Pentagon."

Thanks for posting this! I heard it on SXM radio but wanted to see it with my own eyes. I'll bet few people who heard that broadcast slept last night--I know I didn't.

EDIT: changed "multiple sources" to "multiple sources inside the Pentagon," a crucial addition to the quote.

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