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Related: About this forumLet's talk about Trump's $1.5 Trillion Defense Budget and what it might mean for NATO.... - Belle of the Ranch
Well, howdy there Internet people. It's Belle again. So, today we're going to talk about Trump's $1.5 trillion DoD budget and what people might be missing.
Trump put out a social media post that seems like normal Trumpian stuff, but when taken with some of his other recent statements, there's actually a really concerning occurrence that we need to hope is coincidence. He posted, "After long and difficult negotiations with senators, congressmen, secretaries, and other political representatives, I have determined that for the good of our country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our military budget for the year of 2027 should not be $1 trillion, but rather $1.5 trillion. This will allow us to build the dream military that we have long been entitled to and more importantly that will keep us safe and secure regardless of foe.
Okay, before we get into the anomaly, let's cover the normal stuff. A 50% increase to the US defense budget is absolute insanity. Early estimates suggest it would add $5.8 trillion to the national debt after interest is included. Beyond the added debt, beyond the broken campaign promises and rhetoric, it creates a country that spends about what the other top 35 countries spend on defense combined. And that's where things get troubling.
Trump has been saber rattling about Greenland and Canada. He's been making our longtime allies who are critical to America's place in the world incredibly anxious. Some of his potential moves would realistically end NATO and with it the superpower status of the US. NATO and our other allies provide locations for the US to force project from. The US maintains its dominance because it can sustain operations far away from its home soil. That ability relies on our allies.
If you were deployed to the Middle East over the last couple of decades, your supplies were probably routed through a number of countries on the way. If you were seriously wounded, you were probably treated in Europe. But see, let's be real. Trump doesn't understand any of that. If Trump was told his rhetoric on Greenland could end NATO, do you think he thinks about military logistics and the actual doctrine that built the most powerful military in the history of the world? Of course not. That's not how Trump thinks.
Contrary to his statements, he doesn't know more than the generals. Trump doesn't consider those aspects. That's why his Iran strikes failed. That's why his strikes in Nigeria failed. That's why Venezuela is being referred to as a country that went from manufacturing blow to a country that manufactures blowback. Trump doesn't consider long-term possibilities. He thinks in terms of dollars.
If Trump was told by his staff that he might cause the breakup of NATO, he'd ask his staff how much money it would take to cope with the loss of NATO. Take a guess at the number he would get. Yep. All of NATO's total military expenditures are right around $1.5 trillion. I want to be clear, the dollar amount spent doesn't actually cope with the loss of NATO, but that's how Trump thinks. Those on Capitol Hill should probably be asking where exactly this number came from.
Anyway, it's just a thought. Y'all have a good day.
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Let's talk about Trump's $1.5 Trillion Defense Budget and what it might mean for NATO.... - Belle of the Ranch (Original Post)
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MaddowBlog-The glaring flaw in Trump's plan to boost military spending to $1.5 trillion
LetMyPeopleVote
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(175,080 posts)1. MaddowBlog-The glaring flaw in Trump's plan to boost military spending to $1.5 trillion
The president plans to use tariff revenue that doesnt exist to increase the Pentagon budget to wildly unnecessary levels.
Trump has a plan to use non-existent tariff revenue to simultaneously:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-08T21:11:58.508Z
- boost military spending to .5 trillion
- bail out farmers
- reduce the national debt
- pay for âdividendâ rebate checks
- subsidize child care
Ever hear the old accounting joke that âyou canât spend the same dollar twiceâ?
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-glaring-flaw-in-trumps-plan-to-boost-military-spending-to-1-5-trillion
As this week got underway, Donald Trump whined online that the Fake News Media refuses to talk about the $600 billion in revenue generated by his trade tariffs. Later, the president, whos earned a reputation for making up numbers that make him happy, told House Republicans the administration has taken in $650 billion.....
Complicating matters, the Republican continues to make new plans to spend money he doesnt have. The president published this message to his social media platform on Wednesday afternoon:
He added that this massive increase in military spending is possible because of Tariffs, and the tremendous Income that they bring.
Trump concluded his message by boasting that under his vision he could boost the Pentagons budget by an additional $500 billion while simultaneously paying down the national debt.
At this point, we could talk about the fact that the long and difficult negotiations Trump referred to didnt happen in reality. We could also talk about the fact that the Pentagon does not need, and did not ask for, $1.5 trillion. We could note that the national debt has climbed by roughly $2 trillion since Trump returned to power. The idea that he can lower that total while cutting taxes for the wealthy and vastly increasing military spending is plainly bonkers......
In recent months, the president has even gone so far as to suggest more than once that tariff revenue will be so robust, he might eventually be able to use the money to eliminate federal income taxes altogether.
Now, the president intends to also use this same pile of money to increase military spending by $500 billion.
Theres an old accounting joke that you cant spend the same dollar twice. Under Trump, its tempting to revise the line to you cant spend the same dollar six times, especially when you dont have that dollar.
Complicating matters, the Republican continues to make new plans to spend money he doesnt have. The president published this message to his social media platform on Wednesday afternoon:
After long and difficult negotiations with Senators, Congressmen, Secretaries, and other Political Representatives, I have determined that, for the Good of our Country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our Military Budget for the year 2027 should not be $1 Trillion Dollars, but rather $1.5 Trillion Dollars. This will allow us to build the Dream Military that we have long been entitled to and, more importantly, that will keep us SAFE and SECURE, regardless of foe.
He added that this massive increase in military spending is possible because of Tariffs, and the tremendous Income that they bring.
Trump concluded his message by boasting that under his vision he could boost the Pentagons budget by an additional $500 billion while simultaneously paying down the national debt.
At this point, we could talk about the fact that the long and difficult negotiations Trump referred to didnt happen in reality. We could also talk about the fact that the Pentagon does not need, and did not ask for, $1.5 trillion. We could note that the national debt has climbed by roughly $2 trillion since Trump returned to power. The idea that he can lower that total while cutting taxes for the wealthy and vastly increasing military spending is plainly bonkers......
In recent months, the president has even gone so far as to suggest more than once that tariff revenue will be so robust, he might eventually be able to use the money to eliminate federal income taxes altogether.
Now, the president intends to also use this same pile of money to increase military spending by $500 billion.
Theres an old accounting joke that you cant spend the same dollar twice. Under Trump, its tempting to revise the line to you cant spend the same dollar six times, especially when you dont have that dollar.