Liberal YouTubers
Related: About this forumMarc Elias answers the question "Was there fraud in this election?"
(Spoiler alert: the answer is NO)
NJCher
(37,864 posts)He satisfactorily answered my question. I am going to have to go over the Duty letters again and then listen to this again.
Is it possible he has not read the Spoonamore Duty letter or is he simply saying that may change when all votes are in? And specifically, are all votes in the swing states in?
I can see that Brian put a good deal of thought into his questions and I appreciate that. He needed to pin Elias down on the anomalies, though, and he didnt do that.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,506 posts)Im sure Elias is aware of Spoonamores CT, but being the intelligent, rational, reality based person he is, he dismissed it as kooky nonsense, because it is.
NJCher
(37,864 posts)Spoonamore. Please provide me with sources that say he is a kook and a nut job.
Also, while youre at it, why does Spoonamores letter have similar points to the other Duty letter? The authors of that letter are not kooks and cranks. So explain that one, too, please.
Its easy to call names; its not so easy substantiate those claims. Lets see how you do.
Ill be waiting for your answer.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,506 posts)And so far, no serious person, including Elias, is taking him seriously.
Because he is a kook, trolling for clickbait revenue.
I see little difference between being duped into going down a Spoonamore rabbit hole, and falling for QAnonsense.
Think. Again.
(17,901 posts)Can you please elaborate on that?
Evidence has been a big part of this discussion, rightfully so, can you provide this important evidence on Spoonamore's known history please?
Blue Owl
(54,726 posts)I wish I had your level of faith. Just curious, what is your take on Trumps claims leading up to the election claims like we have the votes already and you wont have to vote again after this election? I am trying to make sense of what those claims meant if there were no way he could cheat the system
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Fiendish Thingy
(18,506 posts)And that immersing oneself in this conspiracy theory is just avoiding the painful reality that Trump won this election.
The US will be faced with multiple imminent challenges, none of which will have anything to do with these CTs.
Think. Again.
(17,901 posts)...which makes me think that's extremely important to him.
I personally don't agree that just accepting any first-count outcome is more important than getting the outcome results right in the first place.
I think this video would have been far more convincing if Elias had been able to address the actual anamolies, rather than just repeating that we shouldn't ask any questions becuase rightwingers once did that.