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Charlotte Little

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68. Stawman?

Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:23 PM

Nov 2018

Please.

I'm not refuting any argument. I read three lines of your OP and quite reading - and then gave my opinion.

I get it. You don't like that. Well, guess what? I am not alone in my assertion.

This is what you came out of the gate with:

"Drump will be way worse than he is now and there will be more terrorism. Sure the House and/or the Senate will try to do a lot, but you have to remember the Supreme Court is against us now. The small vocal far right will protest and their message of fear along with Dumps and the republican party will reach enough politically stupid people that it will make it hard to win the Presidency for us. Even if we pass something that will help everyone they will be against it until it sinks in that it helped them, and by then they will be again in control of the message of fear. Look at the ACA for proof. The ACA was enacted in 2010!!! 8 years ago and now they like it but the credit they give us for it will be short lived. The repubs even now are trying to campaign off it!!"

And don't get me started on your thread title.

No Strawman from me, sir, just honest feedback.

Peoples' nerves are frayed. Mine sure are. And I can be the biggest Debbie Downer on here, in case you've not seen my posts.

But I've cut it out. Why? Because folks are sick of it.

Again. Go read David's thread on Twitter. He can show you how to do it.

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Even if we win the House and/or Senate we will not be in a better country. [View all] Eko Oct 2018 OP

Now, now,.. it will take some time but we will right this ship run a ground. magicarpet Oct 2018 #1

But he is not the problem. Eko Oct 2018 #3

Agree. The more power we get, the sooner we will Hortensis Nov 2018 #65

Trump and his actions have scarred this nation for a generation...at least. elocs Oct 2018 #2

We can start turning around on day one. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #4

That America is gone. roamer65 Oct 2018 #7

I think our country has fallen to the point it's beyond repair due to that tRumpster fire. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #5

Take an upper. We have lived through the Civil War (600,000 dead), Vietnam, Watergate... LBM20 Oct 2018 #8

That fuckwad has destroyed the country WAY worse than those historical events... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #9

Please, chill down. 620,000 dead in the Civil War. 59,000 dead in Vietnam. Go vote. Bring friends. LBM20 Oct 2018 #10

lol, you should be the one chillin, not me...the Civil War dead will dwarfed by the MILLIONS InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #24

Saying this is worse than the Civil War is nothing less than absurdity. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #28

Geez... saying it has the very REAL possibility of being WAY worse... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #39

Hear, hear... RHMerriman Oct 2018 #51

There are things worse than death...... kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2018 #67

OK STOP THE DOOMING AND GLOOMING. Winning the House largely SHUTS HIM DOWN! LBM20 Oct 2018 #6

this Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #13

Is it Doom and Gloom? Eko Oct 2018 #16

If we win the House we can block a lot of what Trump and R's do, and we can INVESTIGATE. Chill down. LBM20 Oct 2018 #19

Sure, we can block it Eko Oct 2018 #20

*THIS* InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #25

Taking our JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #34

PS agree on the old rules JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #35

Yes. it is doom and gloom... LanternWaste Nov 2018 #57

+1,000 malaise Oct 2018 #32

Agree! The gopeeee love when people doom and gloom causing despair.. please don't! Thekaspervote Oct 2018 #54

Perfection is the enemy of the good dalton99a Oct 2018 #11

It's not just trump it's the programmed right wing base lancelyons Oct 2018 #12

Who is calling for perfection? Eko Oct 2018 #17

No one... it just sounds good. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #40

Yup -biggest mistake Dems made was not addressing g media Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #22

For me, this is one of the first hings Dems need to begin working on lancelyons Oct 2018 #38

There will always be idiots like the faux news huggers onetexan Oct 2018 #31

We may be able to do a lot more than we think. rwheeler31 Oct 2018 #14

Exactly - who the hell is going to die - physically or politically - for Donald J. Trump? RHMerriman Oct 2018 #52

Great observation OP. I had never before voted early... until last week. es466 Oct 2018 #15

Me too. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #26

Well this crap didn't just suddenly happen in 2017 lunatica Oct 2018 #18

Your last sentence is the truest statement. Butterflylady Oct 2018 #29

Not if the country has been taken over they cliff by the Rethugs InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #41

The fall of empires and nations has happened many times lunatica Oct 2018 #43

I think in this case, due to the Dotard, once we've fallen, we can't get up. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #44

Some of us won't get up, but most will lunatica Oct 2018 #45

I hope so...never been this discouraged though given the irreperable damage that fuckwad has wrought InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #47

we have to start somewhere, right? 0rganism Oct 2018 #21

THEN I GUESS WE SHOULD JUST GIVE UP AND NOT EVEN TRY obamanut2012 Oct 2018 #23

Pretty sure I said this in the op. Eko Oct 2018 #55

this is the first step in retaking our country, if people don't care...well we have always had those beachbum bob Oct 2018 #27

im not so sure....hes only a third of the power and im sure the SCOTUS samnsara Oct 2018 #30

If we win the House and/or the Senate, we will be in a better country immediately mtnsnake Oct 2018 #33

To do what? All we can do is try to avoid even worse damage to this country. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #48

we will be better off handmade34 Oct 2018 #36

It will still have many problems Downtown Hound Oct 2018 #37

So you prefer loosing. UTUSN Oct 2018 #42

Didnt I say this? Eko Oct 2018 #56

Our representatives WOULD be in a stronger position to stop him. Blue_true Oct 2018 #46

No doubt, we have to rally around a candidate who can unite our party and the country. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #49

Actually yeah, we will be. Iggo Oct 2018 #50

Trump is not the country. He is temporary. wasupaloopa Oct 2018 #53

There's no way he's going to sign Democratic legislation that will make things "better" Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #58

Well that's it Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #59

Did you miss this part? Eko Nov 2018 #61

I couldn't get past the rest of it. Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #62

No Eko Nov 2018 #63

Boy Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #64

You could start with not Eko Nov 2018 #66

Stawman? Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #68

You didnt? Oh my apologies. Eko Nov 2018 #69

That's not a Strawman Argument Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #72

More strawman. Eko Nov 2018 #73

No Strawman Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #75

I would Eko Nov 2018 #74

Good Advice. MarcA Nov 2019 #80

This again? Seriously? Enough already. LBM20 Nov 2018 #60

It's Way past "enough already". n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #79

You are correct, dont back down from your statement! Separation Nov 2018 #70

Thanks! Eko Nov 2018 #71

Any journey begins with a first step Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #76

Legalizing same-sex marriage didn't immediately change attitudes. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #77

Yeah, don't bother voting if we can't change everything right now. Hassler Nov 2018 #78