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KY_EnviroGuy

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29. MM, I get your point, showing how interconnected we all are.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020

Just saw this on Guardian UK: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/02/coronavirus-live-news-global-cases-latest-updates

Data released on Wednesday night by the New York City health authority shows that it is the poorest districts that have been hit hardest by the spread of coronavirus. Residents in the Jackson Heights, Elmhurst and Corona sections of Queens, which are poorer and could be more likely to have many people living under one roof, have tested positive for the virus in far greater numbers and at higher rates per capita than in wealthy, mostly white parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn.

According to an Associated Press report, people living in one Queens zip code just south of LaGuardia airport were roughly four times as likely to have tested positive as people in the gentrified section of Brooklyn where Mayor Bill de Blasio lives. According to the AP’s report:

The numbers back something that has, for days, seemed obvious at Elmhurst hospital, the only major medical center serving that part of Queens where infections are most prevalent. Long lines of people waiting for testing and treatment outside the hospital have been one of the defining images of the pandemic, as have stories of multiple deaths in Elmhurst’s overburdened wards.

Dr Mitchell Katz, the chief executive of the city-run hospital system, told the agency that housing could be playing a role. He said: We know that in Queens, many families, because of poverty, live together in very close quarters. So that while we are practising as a city social distancing, you may have multiple families living together in a very small apartment. And so its easy to understand why theres a lot of transmission of Covid occurring.

So, it's a double-edge sword: the wealthy are inherently dependent on far more humans they don't know for their survival which ultimately raises their risk even though they can afford big elbow room. Conversely, the poor live in much closer quarters but are more likely to know each other, learn from mistakes and help protect themselves as a group.

KY.........

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There's absolutely no proof that occurred. Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #1
Who has checked flight records? I've not seen any information about that. MineralMan Apr 2020 #5
A news agency checked the number of passengers Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #11
But, you see, I did not claim that those people were causing the increase. MineralMan Apr 2020 #17
What you said was they were fleeing New York Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #21
I'm not a journalist, nor am I writing for a publication. MineralMan Apr 2020 #24
They could be driving. cwydro Apr 2020 #33
If driving, a real problem is along I-95 at all the rest stops and motels Jersey Devil Apr 2020 #2
That's a pretty broad generalization snowybirdie Apr 2020 #3
Agreed. That was my reaction to genxlib Apr 2020 #26
not likely fleeing to Florida as that area has some rally pisspoor Healthcare in the first place beachbumbob Apr 2020 #4
That is a real concern on the Cape. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #28
yep, we have friends on the Cape and they say no way is their services in place to handle the beachbumbob Apr 2020 #31
And the poor domestic servants are more likely to catch it from their employers than give it them. Mister Ed Apr 2020 #6
So true. rzemanfl Apr 2020 #16
They're not all "wealthy people" with hired staffs. Fla Dem Apr 2020 #7
There is no escaping Captain Tripps. roamer65 Apr 2020 #8
That is very true, although some will try. MineralMan Apr 2020 #14
Let's just STOP please - visitors have every right to go where they want getagrip_already Apr 2020 #9
Of course they have that right. I did not suggest that they didn't or shouldn't. MineralMan Apr 2020 #12
... greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #18
Sorry, it is a pervasive theme - even here on DU getagrip_already Apr 2020 #20
describing something made up out of whole cloth and simply incorrect Heddi Apr 2020 #46
I hate tell but state health depts has power to restrict travel as well as enforce quarantines beachbumbob Apr 2020 #32
we aren't talking about travel.... getagrip_already Apr 2020 #34
if you are not a fulltime resident, those who don' live "full time" are perceived as beachbumbob Apr 2020 #40
In normal times, nobody discriminates against "outsiders" be they getagrip_already Apr 2020 #41
Most New Yorkers and New Englanders with winter homes in Florida NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #10
That's true. Many Minnesotans also own homes in Florida. MineralMan Apr 2020 #13
that is an interesting concern... getagrip_already Apr 2020 #25
Agree. And, as someone who works long hours, spooky3 Apr 2020 #36
Like my parents. Who are still there and plan to remain until the end of April. smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #43
my parents NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #44
We're gonna be all over the shuffleboard court greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #15
Del Boca Vista Phase 2 Initech Apr 2020 #39
We have a similar issue here in our Virginia lake community. phylny Apr 2020 #19
We have a similar situation here in Minnesota. MineralMan Apr 2020 #22
I don't know about that. I relocated to FL last summer- Everyone I met told tulipsandroses Apr 2020 #23
They call it shelter in place for a reason. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2020 #27
MM, I get your point, showing how interconnected we all are. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #29
So..poorly paid domestic help is the cause of the epidemic in FL. "They'll learn that" lunasun Apr 2020 #30
I did not say that, nor did I imply it. MineralMan Apr 2020 #37
I don't think this behavior is limited to New York ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #35
Wise advice to your daughter, i think. MineralMan Apr 2020 #38
Boy, is your description way off base GusBob Apr 2020 #42
you know nothing about Snowbirds. Please stop Heddi Apr 2020 #45
I'm not talking about snowbirds at all. MineralMan Apr 2020 #48
I hope so democrattotheend Apr 2020 #47
I have many wealthy friends and family Raftergirl Apr 2020 #49
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