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ehrnst

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43. Less than 5% of the total delegates. They clearly know that this is not enough to make it happen.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:09 PM

Jul 2020

So, one has to wonder the actual goal behind it.

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360 Democratic delegates say they'll oppose party platform that does not include 'Medicare for All' [View all] babylonsister Jul 2020 OP

Good Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #1

That's too bad, because there are other ways to get to UHC, as the majority of the rest ehrnst Jul 2020 #2

They bought the brand name of MFA and don't have a clue what grantcart Jul 2020 #72

If you ask them just how long it took for Canada to implement their health care system ehrnst Jul 2020 #81

The campaigns to get rid of trump and elect Biden - do not need this trumpian diversion demand empedocles Jul 2020 #3

Well put. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #9

At this point in time with so many losing their healthcare provided through their jobs this is Autumn Jul 2020 #4

The vast majority of Democrats voted for Biden, who ran on expanding the ACA. ehrnst Jul 2020 #6

I really don't care to go where you are trying to get me to. I applaud them for pushing for it. Autumn Jul 2020 #13

Admitting that Biden won by a huge margin over Sanders? ehrnst Jul 2020 #14

No, just replying to your post. I emptied my ignore list to read a nasty ass comment about AOC Autumn Jul 2020 #18

Utilize away! ehrnst Jul 2020 #23

Uh oh BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #111

This is a rather sad stunt that has no chance of sucess Gothmog Jul 2020 #25

Indeed. We complain about the tyranny of the Senate because of the outsized GOP representation ehrnst Jul 2020 #31

I getting irked at Politico Gothmog Jul 2020 #33

They are desperate for click income, so their headlines are getting more overwrought. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #41

This is a poorly written article Gothmog Jul 2020 #46

As you guys say. In the end, the huge majority will pretend Hortensis Jul 2020 #80

Very on brand for a Holly BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #112

Crybabies DenverJared Jul 2020 #77

No it's not. It's not the time nor the place. WIN FIRST!!! Right now they (we).... George II Jul 2020 #42

I disagree completely. People are hurting, there is a pandemic and a severe healthcare crises. Autumn Jul 2020 #45

When someone actually comes up with a plan and we have a majority in the Senate...... George II Jul 2020 #47

I don't consider it to be divisiveness. This is Democrats letting people know that they want to get Autumn Jul 2020 #51

Obviously most Democrats do consider it divisive, especially since there is no comprehensive plan... George II Jul 2020 #54

Some of us don't consider attempting to do things that many people need and want to be divisive. Autumn Jul 2020 #56

Attempting to do things and actually doing them are two different things.... George II Jul 2020 #62

+1000. It makes perfect sense in the imagination, but in reality... ehrnst Jul 2020 #64

When it gets in the way of actually accomplishing something that people do need, then yes, ehrnst Jul 2020 #65

M4A is still not what the majority of Dems want, and it's not the only option... ehrnst Jul 2020 #63

What good does this silly stunt serve in the real world? Gothmog Jul 2020 #105

I am glad the sanders campaign is doing the right thing Gothmog Jul 2020 #114

sanders needs to remove these delegates Gothmog Jul 2020 #70

Its honorable angrychair Jul 2020 #5

Yes - UHC is inclusive, and M4A hasn't gotten off the ground in Congress since at least 1971. ehrnst Jul 2020 #7

Actually Medicare for All has been introduced at least in the House since the mid-1940s. George II Jul 2020 #48

Thank you for the reminder - Truman proposed it. That was our window for single payer. ehrnst Jul 2020 #49

I believe the goal is healthcare for everyone. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #8

+1000. ehrnst Jul 2020 #11

Sander supporters BGBD Jul 2020 #10

Thank you. Great points. (Nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #12

Why don't they actually try to pass something in the Senate JI7 Jul 2020 #16

President Biden made his opposition to Medicare for All clear...but that was before COVID. BComplex Jul 2020 #15

Restoring and expanding the ACA has much, much greater support among Democrats. ehrnst Jul 2020 #35

I'm not opining about smart or non-smart; I'm saying Biden reserves the right to change his mind BComplex Jul 2020 #53

If he changes his mind on anything else, there are those on the far left who will ehrnst Jul 2020 #58

I doubt it. BComplex Jul 2020 #61

What evidence to you have that many far left Sanders supporters are "russian plants" and not ehrnst Jul 2020 #66

We don't need them. BlueLucy Jul 2020 #17

I'm glad this convention will be online ehrnst Jul 2020 #19

I hope that you right Gothmog Jul 2020 #22

I wish John Lewis had lived to see a convention where he got the ehrnst Jul 2020 #24

That's a beautiful wish, ehrnst.. Cha Jul 2020 #97

I hope that there is a tribute to him this year, and that those who showed such disrepect ehrnst Jul 2020 #109

I was a delegate to the 2016 convention and we were prepared for up to 4 floor votes Gothmog Jul 2020 #20

Protests are impossible with an online convention. former9thward Jul 2020 #94

It was despicable and so self centered. One good Cha Jul 2020 #100

I saw that during the Texas online convention Gothmog Jul 2020 #106

Brilliant! Cha Jul 2020 #107

Is Sanders still in office ? Why doesn't he try to actually pass it there ? JI7 Jul 2020 #21

He has been absent a lot lately. ehrnst Jul 2020 #26

I can understand health concerns, but when Vermont actually tried to pass single payer, Sanders did JI7 Jul 2020 #34

One would think that the state who sent Sanders to the Senate would have the will to implement it. ehrnst Jul 2020 #39

Who is in control of the Senate? Has anyone passed anything in the Senate? Other than a couple Autumn Jul 2020 #29

He has been in office for decades. JI7 Jul 2020 #32

The ACA and CHIPR passed in months. Before that Ted Kennedy and HRC got CHIP through in months. ehrnst Jul 2020 #40

That was then. Since Trump has been in office what has Mitch done? Nothing. The House Autumn Jul 2020 #44

I guess I'm off ignore... ehrnst Jul 2020 #50

I told you I emptied my ignore list to read a nasty comment about AOC . You don't like my Autumn Jul 2020 #55

You keep responding, even if it's just to frantically try to change the topic from one that's ehrnst Jul 2020 #57

I'm polite, when someone says something to me I respond. That's what people do on a discussion Autumn Jul 2020 #60

There is a difference between responding and attempting to be the last one to post. ehrnst Jul 2020 #67

There is a difference between responding and attempting to be the last one to post. Autumn Jul 2020 #82

And you are the textbook example! ehrnst Jul 2020 #83

Not hard at all, it was OT for the subject discussion . I know why he voted no vote on CHIP and Autumn Jul 2020 #84

Oh, hon, of course you don't. ehrnst Jul 2020 #85

So you weren't really looking for a response. No need to get personal, I'm sure there are Autumn Jul 2020 #86

And another non-response and another red herring. ehrnst Jul 2020 #87

Except I did respond to your question. You just didn't like my answer. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #88

Except no, you actually didn't. ehrnst Jul 2020 #89

Yes I was rather clear. There have been "no" votes on Democratic issues by Democrats Autumn Jul 2020 #90

Attacking a strawman yet again. ehrnst Jul 2020 #91

Wait.. Have you moved on from your discussion about Bernie's no vote on CHIPS? Autumn Jul 2020 #96

You brought it up - and you're all over the map on topics. ehrnst Jul 2020 #98

You brought up his vote "no" vote on CHIPS, I gave you MY opinion on that one single vote. Autumn Jul 2020 #99

And you still avoid the issue... ehrnst Jul 2020 #101

I don't avoid the issue ehrnst, I just won't discuss it with you. Autumn Jul 2020 #103

You still engage, while avoiding the hard truths and attempting to change the topic. ehrnst Jul 2020 #108

lefties would rather have 4 more years of Trump. incredible. greenman3610 Jul 2020 #27

And this behavior makes them lose influence not gain influence. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #92

Okay. The platform won't include it, of course. Hortensis Jul 2020 #28

Good points. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #73

I see only one goal in mind. Get rump/gop out of the WH and Senate. Period. All other good ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #30

60 out of a few thousand? OK Renew Deal Jul 2020 #36

Apparently symbolism and purity are more important? brooklynite Jul 2020 #37

It's never too late to find a way to lose ucrdem Jul 2020 #38

Less than 5% of the total delegates. They clearly know that this is not enough to make it happen. ehrnst Jul 2020 #43

I guess they are upset Biden is doing so well and has proven them wrong. honest.abe Jul 2020 #52

That was said of most other candidates. ehrnst Jul 2020 #59

Did you read it? babylonsister Jul 2020 #68

So what happens if the Biden team does not give in to the demands from this group?? honest.abe Jul 2020 #69

Thankfully, this year it's online, so we won't be an opportunity for booing civil rights ehrnst Jul 2020 #71

Indeed. honest.abe Jul 2020 #74

I imagine that the meeting leader has the ability to determine who has the floor ehrnst Jul 2020 #76

They could do it online somewhere else just to make their point. honest.abe Jul 2020 #78

No one will be paying attention to this silliness Gothmog Jul 2020 #104

Biden will be gracious, and self-secure in his dealings with them. ehrnst Jul 2020 #110

I have seen this...here and on twitter. They don't want Trump but they don't want a Biden Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #93

That is less than 10% of the total delegates. DenverJared Jul 2020 #75

Echos of Jill Stein? Is this the start of Susan Sarandon's "revolution"? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2020 #79

Right now we're working on saving people's souls. We'll get around to their health later. jalan48 Jul 2020 #95

Universal health care in ***any** form won't be enacted under Facism, that's for sure. ehrnst Jul 2020 #102

The Sanders campaign is doing the right thing Gothmog Jul 2020 #113