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In reply to the discussion: Even Claire McCaskill says Schumer should exercise the nuclear option now [View all]ancianita
(39,215 posts)15. She is absolutely right. Dems need to stop giving a damn what anybody says about them.
I don't know why we don't have a 50 vote, or who it is we can't depend on, but this nuclear option is a rule, and so we should use what helps our legislative progress.
from wikipedia (thanks, BlueSky3)
The nuclear option is a parliamentary procedure that allows the United States Senate to override a standing rule of the Senate, such as the 60-vote rule to close debate, by a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than the two-thirds supermajority normally required to amend the rules. The option is invoked when the majority leader raises a point of order that contravenes a standing rule, such as that only a simple majority is needed to close debate on certain matters. The presiding officer denies the point of order based on Senate rules, but the ruling of the chair is then appealed and overturned by majority vote, establishing new precedent.
This procedure uses Rule XX to allow the Senate to decide any issue by simple majority vote, regardless of Rule XXII, which requires the consent of 60 senators (out of 100) to end a filibuster for legislation and 67 for amending a Senate rule. The term "nuclear option" is an analogy to nuclear weapons being the most extreme option in warfare.
This procedure uses Rule XX to allow the Senate to decide any issue by simple majority vote, regardless of Rule XXII, which requires the consent of 60 senators (out of 100) to end a filibuster for legislation and 67 for amending a Senate rule. The term "nuclear option" is an analogy to nuclear weapons being the most extreme option in warfare.
Let them scream to hell and back.
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Even Claire McCaskill says Schumer should exercise the nuclear option now [View all]
servermsh
Jan 2021
OP
They have no choice, they must jettison the filibuster to get stuff done, or they'll lose in 2022.
SunSeeker
Jan 2021
#1
They have to bide their time for that, but Schumer needs to get the nuclear option done
BComplex
Jan 2021
#2
It's not that simple- the rule change vote is simple majority, but the motion to proceed isn't
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2021
#12
Then how was McConnell able to ditch the filibuster without a supermajority vote? nt
SunSeeker
Jan 2021
#43
He used a parliamentary maneuver to shut down debate, but more importantly, had 51+ votes. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2021
#53
We do not have 51 votes to kill filibuster- we don't even have 48 votes. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2021
#55
Schumer just needs to nail down Sinema and Manchin, then we have 51 with Harris.
SunSeeker
Jan 2021
#58
Wait, I thought the 117th is 50-50, right? And Harris (?) would break vote ties?
ancianita
Jan 2021
#59
If this is the case then it's been a trap and the nuclear option is the only way out of this.
ancianita
Jan 2021
#61
Good. The timing is to overturn the Organizing Resolution. There's got to be ONE country over
ancianita
Jan 2021
#65
Moscow Mitch will obstruct as long as he is given the power to do so. He's working the press.
Hermit-The-Prog
Jan 2021
#6
I wasn't a huge fan when she was a senator... but what did I know...but on MSNBC I love her
Karadeniz
Jan 2021
#17
OMG...I didn't realize the voters of Missouri fell for him! Actually, I do. He puts up a good facade
Karadeniz
Jan 2021
#32
One of the reasons she was beaten by Hawley was that too many Dems thought she was too moderate
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#64
I agree, but I don't like the term "nuclear option" which makes the Dems look like the extreme ones.
themaguffin
Jan 2021
#10
Schumer is in a tough spot, it isn't him. Sinema, Manchin and maybe Feinstein
Thekaspervote
Jan 2021
#11
It's done not much for us lately. GOP got what they want. Let's not give them tools to block us.
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2021
#13
so true, I think she by nature is far more liberal than Manchin and (now gone) Heitkamp,
Celerity
Jan 2021
#28
She is absolutely right. Dems need to stop giving a damn what anybody says about them.
ancianita
Jan 2021
#15
It is now not just Manchin, Sinema is now also on record saying no, and Feinstein always was a no
Celerity
Jan 2021
#56