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Egalitarian Thug

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83. We have them here and in AZ, where I frequently go for work, as well. They are indeed organized

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:06 PM

Oct 2012

and while many of the individual followers are perfectly nice and well-meaning people, their religion's basic precepts are just flat-out wrong. Just like Christianity and Judaism, the rules in their books range from anachronistic to completely insane, and following them to one degree or another is the price of admission.

What followers of all religions don't seem to be capable of understanding is that, no matter how moderate or well-meaning their application of these rules are, the basic premise is that we know The Truth and if you don't agree or believe, you are wrong. That's why none of them can ever be more beneficial to humanity than they are hurtful.

Believing that fiction is true is antithetical to reality. There is no omnipotent, sentient being watching over the world and caring for its inhabitants, period. It is a fairy tale spun to both comfort and control its adherents.

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Muslims protest 'age of mockery' as thousands descend on Google HQ [View all] alp227 Oct 2012 OP

I can't help but note the irony... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #1

? I feel like the OP is saying something about the Taliban. Tunkamerica Oct 2012 #9

Changing the subject leftynyc Oct 2012 #12

So, what's the subject? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #18

The subject is that leftynyc Oct 2012 #22

So, demonizing Muslims in one place because of what muslims in another place did. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #87

What unmitigated bullshit leftynyc Oct 2012 #90

Well, when you act like a textbook Republican, don't expect people to think you're a Democrat Scootaloo Oct 2012 #91

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"what unmitigated bullshit"... "go fuck yourself" frylock Oct 2012 #96

Well, just from the physical standpoint... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #99

This is now the umpteenth time you've lost it on this board. closeupready Oct 2012 #106

+1 Million. closeupready Oct 2012 #105

Why would anyone want you on their side? Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #53

that post was dead fucking on spot frylock Oct 2012 #59

My point was that these protesters' collective complaint about mockery is STUPID! alp227 Oct 2012 #126

Oh, Scootaloo.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #17

I know, right? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #19

Yes, like Islam is so progressive. (no text) Quantess Oct 2012 #26

Progressives don't demonize Jews or Muslims or whoever the latest vulnerable target happens to be Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #27

Progressives stick up for Enlightenment values. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #29

sticking up for oppressed minorities is sticking up for enlightenment values Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #32

Self-censoring because religious nuts may be offended... Odin2005 Oct 2012 #35

I don't dispute the right of the makers of the film anymore than I dispute the right of Nazis to Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #36

Strange to see bigoted dicks espousing "enlightenment values," though Scootaloo Oct 2012 #88

Muslims are a minority? Egnever Oct 2012 #116

in Europe and America they certainly are a minority and a marginalized minority being demoniized. It Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #117

The obvious victim of prejudice is Malala Yousafzai muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #41

If a group of Jewish people are protesting a holocaust denier are they out of line for not better Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #45

Tons of holocaust denial videos exist on Youtube, along with anti-Catholic/Christian videos, etc. We stevenleser Oct 2012 #110

And they've been protested against and had people call for their removal... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #114

And they all have been criticized on free speech grounds and told "Tough" nt stevenleser Oct 2012 #125

Sure, they are all perfect. demosincebirth Oct 2012 #68

Good Lord no, No one suggested that they are perfect. But it is wrong when it was fashionable to Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #76

You inplied perfection. nt demosincebirth Oct 2012 #77

I certainly cannot even imagine how you interpreted that. Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #79

Allow me to explain... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #89

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There ARE several progressive communities on the internet dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #57

Thank you. I would unrec this thread x1000 if I could. closeupready Oct 2012 #24

What the fuck are any of you talking about? randome Oct 2012 #25

"instead of yourself saying anything about the Taliban in Pakistan. " NCTraveler Oct 2012 #54

You can't possibly be serious... are you? Zalatix Oct 2012 #118

yup the dander goes up for a movie but not for shooting the young girl loli phabay Oct 2012 #2

You must have missed the large protests in Pakistan. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #5

+1. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #8

so, i didnt see the large protest in england which is where we are talking about here loli phabay Oct 2012 #10

why don't you head over there and organize that? frylock Oct 2012 #60

neither but then again its not my religion the nuts who shot her profess loli phabay Oct 2012 #78

so if somebody that shares your same ethnicity were to commit murder.. frylock Oct 2012 #95

if it was done in my name then sure as hell yes loli phabay Oct 2012 #98

who is the official spokeperson for islam? frylock Oct 2012 #101

well im pretty sure its looking like the nuts are the spokesman. time for the vast majority loli phabay Oct 2012 #103

so what are you doing to protest the innocent children obama is killing with drones? frylock Oct 2012 #107

So noted. Thanks.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #62

K&R I hold all organized religions in contempt, but I think Islam is among the very worst. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #3

C'mon now. As liberals, we're supposed to ignore that fact and trash extremists equally. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #11

with Muslim armies, navies and air forces surrounding us on all sides controlling our governments, Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #14

i guess thats why the extremists attack hindus, buddhists, animists and everybody else as well then. loli phabay Oct 2012 #15

I will never understand the need of DU to to pretend that aggression against the Arab/Islamic world Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #16

What about the extremists nuts in our country? Confusious Oct 2012 #66

3 months in and you categorically state you "can never understand DU"? Turborama Oct 2012 #21

Turbo! Selamat pagi! Good to see you again! Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #115

Hey Violet, selamat malam Turborama Oct 2012 #120

Things are going good, but some things stay the same at DU... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #123

It's the Cultural Relativist brigade. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #30

That's a rude and divisive thing to say. closeupready Oct 2012 #33

We can't speak the truth now? Nt Confusious Oct 2012 #67

I can haz ice cream sammich?? closeupready Oct 2012 #70

A fight he'll win, because he's right. nt Codeine Oct 2012 #102

Look. I get it. Many of you are fine with hatred. closeupready Oct 2012 #104

I would have thought an offended minority peacefully protesting is an enlightenment value Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #34

Does that fact that ISLAM IS NOT AN ORGANIZED RELIGION play into this at any level? Romulox Oct 2012 #69

We have them here and in AZ, where I frequently go for work, as well. They are indeed organized Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #83

All organized religions go through what I call the teenage years nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #75

Sure, there is a fairly consistent pattern of maturity among these fantasies, but they are still Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #84

I did not say they are or are not fantasies nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #85

The most intolerant assholes wail the loudest jsr Oct 2012 #4

Ann lo, the mountains shook, and Earth trembled.. the heavens rumbled, and a great voice boomed down Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #7

Geeze, I thought this was going to be about Cupertino! Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #13

what in the wide world is objectionable about peacefully demonstrating? cali Oct 2012 #20

Disagree completely leftynyc Oct 2012 #23

Your post is so clueless. cali Oct 2012 #74

Opinions/assholes leftynyc Oct 2012 #80

Fuck them. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #28

Muslims have just as much right as you to protest what they want... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #112

Sure, they have a right to protest. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #121

And what 'argument' do you think is stupid? Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #122

It's pretty fucked up Marrah_G Oct 2012 #31

This is the way they were raised and indoctrinated ripcord Oct 2012 #37

I don't understand why they're offended Nevernose Oct 2012 #38

Outrage or attempt to show power against the Western world? porphyrian Oct 2012 #39

In fact, fundamentalism of all types is threatened today and lashing out. porphyrian Oct 2012 #40

There's nothing quite as hypocritical as an angry mob calling for civility slackmaster Oct 2012 #42

Only if muslim. If Christian, they're 'anti-war activists' closeupready Oct 2012 #44

Being anti-war is hardly the same thing as being anti-freedom of expression. And I marched in NYC WinkyDink Oct 2012 #47

Of course, because you are special. closeupready Oct 2012 #48

Spam deleted by CaliforniaPeggy (MIR Team) dougshreff Oct 2012 #43

Boy, it'd be hell to pay if these protestors were CHRISTIAN, with all the "insults" to Christ that WinkyDink Oct 2012 #46

Google pulls videos all the time from youtube... lame54 Oct 2012 #49

Were those videos pulled because of copyright infringement? IVoteDFL Oct 2012 #50

the point is... lame54 Oct 2012 #51

Well in that case as a private company google has that right. IVoteDFL Oct 2012 #64

"Welcome to the Jungle" is now on youtube. alp227 Oct 2012 #52

Not this version lame54 Oct 2012 #55

I only see pulls for copyright infringement. They have a ton of holocaust denial vids up. nt stevenleser Oct 2012 #111

"inappropriate content" is often a reason lame54 Oct 2012 #124

They are protesting the Malala incident... lame54 Oct 2012 #56

Some megacorporation needs to buy the film and copyright it KamaAina Oct 2012 #58

Ok, fine. Protest 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #61

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #63

Me too. demosincebirth Oct 2012 #65

All Muslims are not fundamentalists. You can be a moderate, peaceful Muslim renie408 Oct 2012 #71

"those muslims" do not all support the Taliban. renie408 Oct 2012 #72

+ 1,000,000. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #73

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #81

Wouldn't a better strategy be to let this film fade into obscurity? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #82

Where am I? Oilwellian Oct 2012 #92

Since when was it bigoted to disagree with religion? alp227 Oct 2012 #94

Uh, which group is the one that can't abide freedom of artistic expression? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #97

You are. When it comes to Muslims, this place is identical to Stormfront. n/t Scootaloo Oct 2012 #100

I hear you - and it seems to get worse all the time CrawlingChaos Oct 2012 #108

Anyone who stages a public protest demanding restrictions on civil liberties has no sense of irony Azathoth Oct 2012 #109

In response to your last point... LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #113

islam = religion of peace Batman bin Suparman Oct 2012 #119