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kentuck

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Tue Jun 8, 2021, 08:21 AM Jun 2021

How is it legal? [View all]

That a partisan, independent group can be granted access to all the ballots in a county or state, with the simple approval of one of the political Parties in that state or county?

This is what is happening in Arizona with the so-called "Cyber Ninjas".

They are attempting to overthrow an election, where all the judicial options were granted to all Parties involved, but it did not come out the way one Party wanted it to come out.

So they pick people off the street, more or less, to help with a new count, which they call an "audit". Every rule and regulation was ignored in the process. They did not protect the ballots.

But, the question is, why are they able to get away with this? How are they able to adopt extra-judicial reasons to have a partisan "audit", to try and change a fair and legal election, and nobody does anything about it?

They are like a juvenile that keeps breaking the rules because no-one holds him accountable. Now, they are talking about doing the same extra-judicial scam in Georgia and Pennsylvania.

Why is this permitted to go on? Why have no judges ruled on its illegality? Why has no one challenged it in court? It can only get worse.

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How is it legal? [View all] kentuck Jun 2021 OP
My understanding is that the states are given wide lattitude and that el_bryanto Jun 2021 #1
But how those recounts are conducted... is it not regulated in any way? nt Nittersing Jun 2021 #6
I am curious as to how they envisioned it being used - I believe Arizona has had el_bryanto Jun 2021 #9
That's not what Arizona's SOS has said. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #16
Then she should be in court fighting it. blm Jun 2021 #32
AZ pukes just took away not fooled Jun 2021 #48
Lordy - this stinks to high heaven. notinkansas Jun 2021 #54
The fascists have figured out not fooled Jun 2021 #56
This is not a recount of ballots... brooklynite Jun 2021 #7
Thats accurate; but I am guessing that the people paying for and conducting el_bryanto Jun 2021 #10
They're entitled to believe what they want. brooklynite Jun 2021 #11
Libertarian 101 zaj Jun 2021 #19
This is not a recount, it is... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #35
The findings of the audit matters not. pwb Jun 2021 #2
It spoils the ballots, keeps the controversy alive, and make it impossible Xipe Totec Jun 2021 #58
Good questions all. LuvLoogie Jun 2021 #3
you get what you elect..... getagrip_already Jun 2021 #4
This. nt RegularJam Jun 2021 #5
Great questions malaise Jun 2021 #8
In 2001 in Florida the media did a recount exboyfil Jun 2021 #12
I don't think it should be legal either. panader0 Jun 2021 #13
It's a conundrum bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #14
The legal theory is that it is Tomconroy Jun 2021 #15
They aren't authorized to violate federal election laws. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #17
There were a couple of court cases trying to stop it. Tomconroy Jun 2021 #21
Link? gab13by13 Jun 2021 #26
Which federal election laws? FBaggins Jun 2021 #25
Ballots, voting systems, and other election materials, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #27
Which federal election laws? FBaggins Jun 2021 #33
Title 52 - Voting and Elections, Subtitle I and II gab13by13 Jun 2021 #34
How odd. You appear to have linked to entirely unrelated federal laws FBaggins Jun 2021 #41
I think 52 USC 20701 is being referenced. Tomconroy Jun 2021 #46
Possibly... but if so... it's incorrectly FBaggins Jun 2021 #47
I suspect that you are right. Tomconroy Jun 2021 #49
When I Was a Kid Growing Up in Japan, I Wanted to Be a Ninja When I Grew Up. panfluteman Jun 2021 #18
When the criminals control the "investigation"... SergeStorms Jun 2021 #20
When I was young and foolish, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #22
Holy Mackerel, that's a fascinating story msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #55
didn't You hear? Trump expects to be Reinstated come Augest ... YoshidaYui Jun 2021 #23
Nah, he'll just keep asking for money like he is oldsoftie Jun 2021 #59
Now I think it's about "normalizing" recounts and undermining faith in our elections. Nittersing Jun 2021 #24
Precisely! lonely bird Jun 2021 #29
Basically, it's not about who votes, but who counts the votes? kentuck Jun 2021 #30
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #31
+1, just what self serving cynic and pimp to Trump Bad Vlad ordered uponit7771 Jun 2021 #53
I don't think the constitution ever mentioned a need for fairness at all. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #28
The "audit" is being conducted under the color of a... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #36
Not according to Eric Holder gab13by13 Jun 2021 #38
Ok, I may be mistaken.... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #51
NPR: Justice Department: Arizona Senate Audit, Recount May Violate Federal Law Gaugamela Jun 2021 #37
Now now gab13by13 Jun 2021 #39
'may' is the key. Kablooie Jun 2021 #44
They abandoned the door to door Tomconroy Jun 2021 #45
Once they reach a point, or come up with a fig leaf that they like, BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #40
Not only that the contract wasn't open for competitive bids grantcart Jun 2021 #42
Republicans do not suffer consequences for illegal actions. Kablooie Jun 2021 #43
What in the world do you think the Cyber Ninjas are going to do to the election, seriously ... marble falls Jun 2021 #50
K&R uponit7771 Jun 2021 #52
We've coup-ed 3rd world countries for much less than this peppertree Jun 2021 #57
A media consortium recounted the 2000 Florida ballots... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #60
It isn't, but normal people don't know what to do Marthe48 Jun 2021 #61
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