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betsuni

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19. Yes, I question the judgement.

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:39 PM

Jul 2021

Especially if politicians claim to be more principled, consistent, authentic and so on than anybody else. They tell their supporters and staff to vote for Hillary and Biden but some of them very publicly say no, and even more than that, say terrible untrue things about those candidates, repeat conspiracy theories about rigged primaries and corruption and urge everyone to vote third party.

If I were that politician, that would be it. They didn't do what I told them to do. If they trusted my judgement, why didn't they? It would be obvious if I endorsed such a person that I didn't disagree with what they said and did. It would hurt my integrity as a progressive focused on fighting for the working people of this country. No way would I hurt my reputation like that.

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Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? [View all] NurseJackie Jul 2021 OP

Don't know that it actually does... 2naSalit Jul 2021 #1

I can only presume that anyone who endorses her must also AGREE with her vulgar comments. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #3

Bernie definitely harmed my opinion of him by endorsing Turner. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #2

Yeah, just when I was starting to warm toward him Walleye Jul 2021 #5

Same here PatSeg Jul 2021 #55

I don't think he had much choice. She was completely loyal to him over two cycles. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #6

Bernie has always had a rather strained relationship with the Democratic Party... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #7

I guess it depends on what one means by "generally". Bernie ranks LAST in the Democratic caucus... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #9

Where can I find the documentation, or vote-rankings, that support this statement? DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #11

It's my pleasure! Here you go! I hope this helps. Sort by "Biden Score"... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #12

Thank you! Interesting. So he's last with 93.5%? DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #14

Seriously? I guess I just have higher standards and expectations. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #16

Without now knowing which specific votes Sanders voted against Biden's position on, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #23

Ridiculous! What an absurd reason for NOT supporting something. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #25

I admitted that sometimes Sanders may be more ideological than practical. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #46

It is two votes dsc Jul 2021 #30

Thank you, dsc. nt DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #47

The poster is erecting a strawman. It was TWO votes total he voted against the Biden stance Celerity Jul 2021 #32

Two more than 35 other Democratic Senators. It should be remembered, also, that in 2016..... George II Jul 2021 #35

you need to give up that old UPS board disnfo dross, he blocked 2 of them because the unions Celerity Jul 2021 #36

He actually blocked five members, who were all nominated by Obama at the same time... George II Jul 2021 #37

McTurtle blocked the rest in retaliation for the 2, as I already showed. I have no idea why Obama Celerity Jul 2021 #38

I trust President Obama's judgement more than I do the junior Senator from VT. He was President.... George II Jul 2021 #39

lol, you really are twisting yourself into pretzel logic and rhetorical knots Celerity Jul 2021 #41

It was from The Hill, which is not a right wing site. But, I changed the link to a similar one.... George II Jul 2021 #42

no he didn't, and Trump would have gotten to appoint a Rethug majority anyway, due to terms expiring Celerity Jul 2021 #43

+1000 nt DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #50

Thank you very much, Celerity, for your diligent research... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #48

Those "two votes" are two votes more than either Manchin or Sinema voted against.... George II Jul 2021 #59

God knows YOU would never do anything like that, would you... lol DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #70

Just who are you DemocraticPatriot? George II Jul 2021 #77

No. betsuni Jul 2021 #54

Lulz. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #63

#50 out of 50 isn't so good. George II Jul 2021 #21

But 93.5 percent is pretty good. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #24

I doubt that. Last place is LAST place. The numbers don't lie. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #28

Do you have any understanding about how much you sound like a right-winger, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #49

I haven't attacked YOU. Why do you feel that it's okay to attack and insult ME? NurseJackie Jul 2021 #53

You're Obviously A Female Me. Jul 2021 #57

At the ripe old age of seventy-mumble, I've seen my fair share of sexist behavior. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #60

Why THank You Me. Jul 2021 #61

You were quoting the same 'talking points' I have heard on right-wing radio.... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #68

You know perfectly well that I'm not "quoting" anyone's talking points. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #71

You're calling a long-time DUer a "right-winger"? C'mon man, please apologize. George II Jul 2021 #67

I never called her a "right-winger", George... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #69

Hi, George... of course that's what's going on. Thank you! NurseJackie Jul 2021 #75

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders voted the same about 93% when they were senators. betsuni Jul 2021 #52

These numbers are highly misleading dsc Jul 2021 #31

I live in AZ AZProgressive Jul 2021 #44

He lost me in the Governor primary here in Florida. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #34

The propaganda from the right wing is a joke to me at this point AZProgressive Jul 2021 #40

Don't forget the Congressional Black Caucus. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #79

I already had a lower opinion of him Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #64

It Should Me. Jul 2021 #4

A hero of DU, the Independent Senator from Vermont 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2021 #8

It should. panader0 Jul 2021 #10

Needs more options (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #13

Hell Yes it does.. how could it not? Cha Jul 2021 #15

The poll has nothing to do with the OP subject brooklynite Jul 2021 #17

Depends ChrisF1961 Jul 2021 #18

My bet is that the average voter in OH-11 is VERY familiar with the person who made the comment.... George II Jul 2021 #22

Yes, I question the judgement. betsuni Jul 2021 #19

It does with me. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #20

Have to pass due to the wording DFW Jul 2021 #26

Katie Porter will do fine n/t Tom Rinaldo Jul 2021 #27

I came close to mentioning her DFW Jul 2021 #29

Maybe... but without my money. Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #65

Definitely for me, but not nearly as much as endorsing a candidate Hortensis Jul 2021 #33

Voters have more to worry about than name calling. jalan48 Jul 2021 #45

Voters often reject politicians who let slip vile and vicious comments. oasis Jul 2021 #51

It Should Me. Jul 2021 #56

Form your own damned party and stop taking our money then alphafemale Jul 2021 #58

She DID!! But they didn't have what it takes to get on the Ohio ballot... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #62

The People's Party AZProgressive Jul 2021 #66

Doesn't matter to me. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #72

But she didn't vote for Biden. She also didn't vote for Hillary. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #73

Not voting for HRC and JB is a better reason for not supporting Turner SYFROYH Jul 2021 #74

Lulz. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #76

Yes, she's running as a Democrat. THIS is why she's running as a Democrat, from the party.... George II Jul 2021 #81

That tells the whole story right there. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #82

Not "fawning" is one thing, but calling him a half bowl of shit and then a FULL bowl of shit.... George II Jul 2021 #80

It certainly hurts my opinion of them n/t kcr Jul 2021 #78