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In reply to the discussion: Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? [View all]DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)I can't really pass judgement, based upon a "statistic" alone. Perhaps Sanders opposed some things because he felt the Biden position was not progressive enough? Sanders is to the left of Biden. I suspect that was the case on most of those "wrong" votes. I certainly don't believe his percentage was less because he supported the Republican position on much of anything...
If you happen to know any of the specific votes where Sanders opposed the Biden position, I would welcome knowing about those. I do recall there was one vote where Sanders voted "weird" earlier this year, but I don't recall what it was about... I haven't had time to dig deeper into the 538 link, not sure if that will show every vote for any specific officeholder...
"Honestly... last place among the Senatorial Democratic Caucus is really nothing to crow about. Of course it's bad."
No one is 'crowing'. Yes, last place isn't where one would want to be... but 93.5 percent is pretty good. If anyone had voted "93.5% liberal" in past times, it would have been considered to be pretty damned good. "Good enough", in fact.
" I guess I just have higher standards and expectations."
Especially when it comes to Sanders ? Yes? I understand that is what this whole thread is really about. No, I don't support Nina Turner in this election, and think her comments to be deplorable... but given their history, I also believe Sanders had little choice but to support her. Paybacks to old friends. I cannot fault loyalty to friends. I think her opponent will eventually win this election, and support her.
Sanders caucuses with us as an independent. Therefore, it is unreasonable to expect 100% adherence to the Biden 'party line' from him. We don't get 100% adherence to the Biden position from many senators who are Democrats. It seems clear to me that he is with us on the most important current issues-- indeed, a leader on some of them.
I know one very important issue where it would appear that Sanders is right, and President Biden is wrong-- the preservation of the filibuster.
Nobody is perfect.
PS Yes, I supported Sanders in the 2016 primary. I stood in a pretty long line to vote for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 general election... and in 2020, I cast my primary vote for Joe Biden. I believed that I was probably closer to Sanders "on the issues", but thought Joe Biden was the better choice to beat Donald Trump, and I've always liked him-- I was supporting him for president in 1988 before his debacle then, and always thought he was unfairly shafted on the alleged "plagiarism" thing, and should not have withdrawn from the race. Since his inauguration, I could not be happier with his performance in office (except with his current position on the filibuster, but I understand that may be evolving still)
Yes, I would be happier if Sanders had a better "statistical percentage" in supporting Biden-- but if I knew the actual specifics of such opposing votes, I might agree with Sanders.... then again, I support "good", if the "perfect" is politically out of reach...
It seems as though the Senate has been voting on a lot of things that we never really hear much about, in the news.... How else could Mitch McConnell have a 62.5% result in voting to support Biden positions? lol
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