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In reply to the discussion: Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? [View all]Celerity
(48,411 posts)36. you need to give up that old UPS board disnfo dross, he blocked 2 of them because the unions
wanted them to be blocked, as they were pro privatisation, pro wage reduction, etc and Sanders obliged. Moscow Mitch then blocked the rest.
You so often repeat the same things over and over and misrepresent them, and it takes people like me to have to come in and correct the record, as I do the actual historical research to show what revisionist games you are playing.
APWU, Federal, Civil Rights Groups Oppose Nominees to USPS Board of Governors
http://www.postal-reporter.com/blog/apwu-federal-civil-rights-groups-oppose-nominees-to-usps-board-of-governors/
September 30, 2015 APWU,
Federal Unions and Civil Rights groups sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid expressing opposition to USPS Board of Governors nominees particularly James Miller III and Mickey Barnett.
Stephen Crawford (D) was nominated by President Barack Obama in June 2012 for a term expiring December 8, 2015
James Miller, III (R) was nominated by President Barack Obama in March 2012 for a term expiring December 8, 2017 . Miller was on the Board from 2003-2012.
David Michael Bennett (D) was nominated by President Barack Obama on April 23, 2013 for a term expiring December 8, 2018
David S. Shapira was nominated by President Barack Obama on October 8, 2014 for a term expiring December 8, 2019
In every Senate hearing regarding the nomination of James Miller III (R) to the USPS Board of Governors his views on privatizing USPS has taken center stage? Does Miller still hold the view that USPS should be privatized? Yes and No. During his confirmation hearing Sen. Susan Collins asked Miller if he still holds the view that USPS should be privatized, this is what he said :

Miller also would like to explore the idea of hiring college students (similar to FedEx) during high peak seasons. And finally, Miller along with Carper would like for USPS to look into expanding the Staples concept (this idea was discussed before all of the Staples protests). The plan would pay postmasters of these revamped offices $15 per hour instead of a $50,000 -$60,000 annual salary.
snip
Here is the letter:
Dear Majority Leader McConnell and Minority Leader Reid:
On behalf of the undersigned organizations, we write to express our opposition to the confirmation of the current slate of nominees to the Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service (USPS).
It is our understanding that the Senate will consider as a package the four nominees approved by the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs on May 6, 2015. Our organizations are in agreement that it would be preferable to continue with a stripped-down Board of Governors than to fill those vacancies with a slate that includes nominees whose policy stances would be harmful to the USPS and ultimately to the public it serves. Given the harmful effects of payday lending on the communities we represent, and given the value of and need for a vibrant, public Postal Service that provides affordable, universal mail service to all including rich and poor, rural and urban, without regard to age, nationality, race, or gender we are especially troubled by the nominations of Mickey D. Barnett, who has previously worked as a lobbyist for the payday lending industry, and of James C. Miller, III, who dating back at least to his tenure as director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB) from 1985-88, has strongly supported privatizing the Postal Service.
Our opposition to Mr. Barnetts nomination is based on his work on behalf of the New Mexico Independent Financial Services Association, where Mr. Barnett lobbied policymakers to oppose regulation of the states payday loan industry. His efforts included opposing a modest reform bill in New Mexico in 2007 that still allowed 400 percent annual rates on payday loans. He said that at that rate, I guarantee you they cant make money.[ii] Several years later, Mr. Barnett represented the World Finance Corporation of New Mexico, a short-term lender, arguing that a customer was required to seek arbitration of any disputes in this case, over the companys misleading and abusive debt collection practices but that the company itself was not. The Supreme Court of New Mexico unanimously rejected Mr. Barnetts and his clients position as unconscionable.[iii]
We are especially concerned about Mr. Barnetts ties with this industry, in the context of his reappointment, because of the close relationship between the USPS and the communities of color that have been disproportionately affected by payday lending and other predatory forms of credit. Because the USPS is located nationwide in both urban and rural areas, it serves as an important employer in these communities and a potential lifeline to other essential services. It is no surprise that a Gallup poll released in November 2014 shows that Americans deliver high marks to USPS, rated highest out of 13 major federal agencies. [iv] This suggests the publics willingness to consider the USPS as a potential venue for an array of important financial services. We would be deeply troubled if anyone confirmed to a leadership position within the USPS used that position to promote the sorts of practices we have seen in the payday lending industry, or to block the advancement of alternatives.
Mr. Miller, on the other hand, has been clear about his own troubling preferences for the future of the U.S. Postal Service. As OMB Director in 1988, Miller stated, There is no good reason why [the Postal Service] should remain part of the U.S. government and no good reason why it should enjoy a monopoly over the delivery of letter mail.[v]Speaking at his 2012 Senate confirmation hearing on his second nomination to the board, Mr. Miller stated that I think it would be best for the world, for the economy, and for the American people if the Postal Service was de-monopolized and privatized.[vi]Our organizations believe that a public Postal Service is vital to our democracy and to commerce. While proponents of privatization point to cost savings and efficiency, recent examples such as the privatization of parking meters in Chicago cast serious doubt on these assertions.[vii]
Furthermore, recent studies show that outsourcing government functions lead to a weakened infrastructure, insufficient oversight, crumbling tax bases, and a decline in wages and benefits.[viii]Privatization of our public Postal Service also undermines a fundamental tenet of democracy: a network that allows universal and affordable civic and political discourse, binding together each and every household in the country. At a time when the future of the USPS is unclear, largely because of Congresss inability to pass a comprehensive reform bill, it is especially important that the Board of Governors be composed of individuals who have demonstrated a strong commitment to the public service role of this great institution, and who have shown an openness to exploring all reasonable, public service-oriented options which might contribute to the vitality and sustainability of the USPS. Unfortunately, on this basis, we must urge you to reject the current slate of nominees.
Thank you for your consideration of our views. If you have any questions, please contact Rob Randhava, Senior Counsel at The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, at (202) 466-3311.
Sincerely,
Wade Henderson
President & CEO
The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
Lee Saunders
President
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

You so often repeat the same things over and over and misrepresent them, and it takes people like me to have to come in and correct the record, as I do the actual historical research to show what revisionist games you are playing.
APWU, Federal, Civil Rights Groups Oppose Nominees to USPS Board of Governors
http://www.postal-reporter.com/blog/apwu-federal-civil-rights-groups-oppose-nominees-to-usps-board-of-governors/
September 30, 2015 APWU,
Federal Unions and Civil Rights groups sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid expressing opposition to USPS Board of Governors nominees particularly James Miller III and Mickey Barnett.
Stephen Crawford (D) was nominated by President Barack Obama in June 2012 for a term expiring December 8, 2015
James Miller, III (R) was nominated by President Barack Obama in March 2012 for a term expiring December 8, 2017 . Miller was on the Board from 2003-2012.
David Michael Bennett (D) was nominated by President Barack Obama on April 23, 2013 for a term expiring December 8, 2018
David S. Shapira was nominated by President Barack Obama on October 8, 2014 for a term expiring December 8, 2019
In every Senate hearing regarding the nomination of James Miller III (R) to the USPS Board of Governors his views on privatizing USPS has taken center stage? Does Miller still hold the view that USPS should be privatized? Yes and No. During his confirmation hearing Sen. Susan Collins asked Miller if he still holds the view that USPS should be privatized, this is what he said :

Miller also would like to explore the idea of hiring college students (similar to FedEx) during high peak seasons. And finally, Miller along with Carper would like for USPS to look into expanding the Staples concept (this idea was discussed before all of the Staples protests). The plan would pay postmasters of these revamped offices $15 per hour instead of a $50,000 -$60,000 annual salary.
snip
Here is the letter:
Dear Majority Leader McConnell and Minority Leader Reid:
On behalf of the undersigned organizations, we write to express our opposition to the confirmation of the current slate of nominees to the Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service (USPS).
It is our understanding that the Senate will consider as a package the four nominees approved by the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs on May 6, 2015. Our organizations are in agreement that it would be preferable to continue with a stripped-down Board of Governors than to fill those vacancies with a slate that includes nominees whose policy stances would be harmful to the USPS and ultimately to the public it serves. Given the harmful effects of payday lending on the communities we represent, and given the value of and need for a vibrant, public Postal Service that provides affordable, universal mail service to all including rich and poor, rural and urban, without regard to age, nationality, race, or gender we are especially troubled by the nominations of Mickey D. Barnett, who has previously worked as a lobbyist for the payday lending industry, and of James C. Miller, III, who dating back at least to his tenure as director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB) from 1985-88, has strongly supported privatizing the Postal Service.
Our opposition to Mr. Barnetts nomination is based on his work on behalf of the New Mexico Independent Financial Services Association, where Mr. Barnett lobbied policymakers to oppose regulation of the states payday loan industry. His efforts included opposing a modest reform bill in New Mexico in 2007 that still allowed 400 percent annual rates on payday loans. He said that at that rate, I guarantee you they cant make money.[ii] Several years later, Mr. Barnett represented the World Finance Corporation of New Mexico, a short-term lender, arguing that a customer was required to seek arbitration of any disputes in this case, over the companys misleading and abusive debt collection practices but that the company itself was not. The Supreme Court of New Mexico unanimously rejected Mr. Barnetts and his clients position as unconscionable.[iii]
We are especially concerned about Mr. Barnetts ties with this industry, in the context of his reappointment, because of the close relationship between the USPS and the communities of color that have been disproportionately affected by payday lending and other predatory forms of credit. Because the USPS is located nationwide in both urban and rural areas, it serves as an important employer in these communities and a potential lifeline to other essential services. It is no surprise that a Gallup poll released in November 2014 shows that Americans deliver high marks to USPS, rated highest out of 13 major federal agencies. [iv] This suggests the publics willingness to consider the USPS as a potential venue for an array of important financial services. We would be deeply troubled if anyone confirmed to a leadership position within the USPS used that position to promote the sorts of practices we have seen in the payday lending industry, or to block the advancement of alternatives.
Mr. Miller, on the other hand, has been clear about his own troubling preferences for the future of the U.S. Postal Service. As OMB Director in 1988, Miller stated, There is no good reason why [the Postal Service] should remain part of the U.S. government and no good reason why it should enjoy a monopoly over the delivery of letter mail.[v]Speaking at his 2012 Senate confirmation hearing on his second nomination to the board, Mr. Miller stated that I think it would be best for the world, for the economy, and for the American people if the Postal Service was de-monopolized and privatized.[vi]Our organizations believe that a public Postal Service is vital to our democracy and to commerce. While proponents of privatization point to cost savings and efficiency, recent examples such as the privatization of parking meters in Chicago cast serious doubt on these assertions.[vii]
Furthermore, recent studies show that outsourcing government functions lead to a weakened infrastructure, insufficient oversight, crumbling tax bases, and a decline in wages and benefits.[viii]Privatization of our public Postal Service also undermines a fundamental tenet of democracy: a network that allows universal and affordable civic and political discourse, binding together each and every household in the country. At a time when the future of the USPS is unclear, largely because of Congresss inability to pass a comprehensive reform bill, it is especially important that the Board of Governors be composed of individuals who have demonstrated a strong commitment to the public service role of this great institution, and who have shown an openness to exploring all reasonable, public service-oriented options which might contribute to the vitality and sustainability of the USPS. Unfortunately, on this basis, we must urge you to reject the current slate of nominees.
Thank you for your consideration of our views. If you have any questions, please contact Rob Randhava, Senior Counsel at The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, at (202) 466-3311.
Sincerely,
Wade Henderson
President & CEO
The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
Lee Saunders
President
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

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I can only presume that anyone who endorses her must also AGREE with her vulgar comments.
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