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In reply to the discussion: Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)75. Hi, George... of course that's what's going on. Thank you!
I never called her a "right-winger", George... I only pointed out that she was quoting right-wing talking points
As you can see, a great deal of effort is being made to split hairs and parse words to extract different meanings that are contrary to what reasonable people would understand. When I see such great effort being spent in things like that, it suggests to me that someone knows they are arguing from a position of weakness.
Fact of the matter is this. No reasonable person is going to believe this "interpretation" of events. Accusing me of "quoting right-wing talking points" is in fact accusing ME of being a right-winger. There are no two ways about it. At best, it's an accusation that I'm STUPID.
As you well know, I'm not a stupid woman... and I appreciate you speaking out on my behalf in in my defense. But you know, I see exactly what's going on. I've dealt with this kind of shit all my life!
Obviously, I'm not a right-winger. I'm a loyal Democrat. Right here in the center. Left-center on some issues. Right-center on other issues. (In the past and over the years, some on the far left have also accused me of being a right-winger... but that's a problem with THEIR skewed perspective.)
but she surely should not be using their talking points here.
That's a false accusation. I am doing no such thing. Attacking the messenger and treating someone like they are stupid is a weak defense that shows a lack of character... it's something that I'd never do.
and using them to attack Sen. Sanders' voting record.
Clearly, I did not do that either. His record and his rank (50th) speaks for itself. Nobody needs me to "attack" him for anything. Pointing out the facts is NOT an attack. I think it's notable that nobody has actually denied the facts. Instead, we see excuses, interpretations, rationalizations... AND (of course) the standard tactic of attacking and insulting the messenger.
It's bullying for anyone to keep repeating the same accusation about me over and over and over again. I don't like being bullied.
Another thing: have you ever noticed, George II, how religious zealots and other fundamentalists can cherry-pick Old Testament Bible Quotes to use as a cudgel against their adversaries. --- We were talking about this the other day. The Bible-thumpers can quote (and misinterpret) chapter and verse when it suits their own purposes. But when their own behavior is compared to ALL of the "forgotten" Bible Quotes, the hypocrisy is revealed. (Seems like there's a news report EVERY WEEK about some religious extremist being outed and revealed.)
Anyway... that's all I wanted to say to you. Thank you very much for standing-up for me. I'm not stupid, even though I'm often treated as though I am.
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Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? [View all]
NurseJackie
Jul 2021
OP
I can only presume that anyone who endorses her must also AGREE with her vulgar comments.
NurseJackie
Jul 2021
#3
I don't think he had much choice. She was completely loyal to him over two cycles.
Dream Girl
Jul 2021
#6
Bernie has always had a rather strained relationship with the Democratic Party...
Wounded Bear
Jul 2021
#7
I guess it depends on what one means by "generally". Bernie ranks LAST in the Democratic caucus...
NurseJackie
Jul 2021
#9
Where can I find the documentation, or vote-rankings, that support this statement?
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2021
#11
Without now knowing which specific votes Sanders voted against Biden's position on,
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2021
#23
I admitted that sometimes Sanders may be more ideological than practical.
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2021
#46
The poster is erecting a strawman. It was TWO votes total he voted against the Biden stance
Celerity
Jul 2021
#32
Two more than 35 other Democratic Senators. It should be remembered, also, that in 2016.....
George II
Jul 2021
#35
you need to give up that old UPS board disnfo dross, he blocked 2 of them because the unions
Celerity
Jul 2021
#36
He actually blocked five members, who were all nominated by Obama at the same time...
George II
Jul 2021
#37
McTurtle blocked the rest in retaliation for the 2, as I already showed. I have no idea why Obama
Celerity
Jul 2021
#38
I trust President Obama's judgement more than I do the junior Senator from VT. He was President....
George II
Jul 2021
#39
It was from The Hill, which is not a right wing site. But, I changed the link to a similar one....
George II
Jul 2021
#42
no he didn't, and Trump would have gotten to appoint a Rethug majority anyway, due to terms expiring
Celerity
Jul 2021
#43
Those "two votes" are two votes more than either Manchin or Sinema voted against....
George II
Jul 2021
#59
Do you have any understanding about how much you sound like a right-winger,
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2021
#49
I haven't attacked YOU. Why do you feel that it's okay to attack and insult ME?
NurseJackie
Jul 2021
#53
At the ripe old age of seventy-mumble, I've seen my fair share of sexist behavior.
NurseJackie
Jul 2021
#60
You were quoting the same 'talking points' I have heard on right-wing radio....
DemocraticPatriot
Jul 2021
#68
You're calling a long-time DUer a "right-winger"? C'mon man, please apologize.
George II
Jul 2021
#67
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders voted the same about 93% when they were senators.
betsuni
Jul 2021
#52
My bet is that the average voter in OH-11 is VERY familiar with the person who made the comment....
George II
Jul 2021
#22
Yes, she's running as a Democrat. THIS is why she's running as a Democrat, from the party....
George II
Jul 2021
#81