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Demsrule86
(71,033 posts)77. That is absolute crap...The attacks continued in the General and you know it.
Hillary struggled in the General but she almost won. Some (Greens and others) helped Trump win the election by siphoning off votes for Hillary in key battleground states. I often wonder if they are pleased with themselves or if they feel any remorse for the caged babies, Covid victims, and women who will undoubtedly die as a result of Bush II picks and Trump picks for SCOTUS.
You can defend them and cry PUMA until the cows come how...PUMA was right-wing and we know that but Hillary supporters were smart enough not to fall for it in the 2008 General...and they voted for Pres. Obama. Unfortunately, 16 was a different story in terms of voting for the Democratic nominee by the 'but her email' crowd and we will pay a terrible price for this -likely for decades.
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I suppose some believe that beatings will raise morale. I do not. What fairy dust will
Demsrule86
May 2022
#90
The other difference was both tRump and Hillary had historically low favorability ratings in 2016.
CentralMass
May 2022
#11
Please stop defending what happened in 16. I can't continue. As is stands women will die
Demsrule86
May 2022
#79
I think there is plenty of blame. I do not find your analysis convincing. Had those who
Demsrule86
May 2022
#91
I am a progressive and I vote in every election. I love Obama but he had one issue that I didn't
Demsrule86
May 2022
#56
It has nothing to do with that. It is called party loyalty...they vote Republicans whether they
Demsrule86
May 2022
#26
Progressives and anyone else should always vote the Democratic candidate. And the fact that some
Demsrule86
May 2022
#39
I don't believe if these voters are not motivated to vote after what has and is going on, we
Demsrule86
Jun 2022
#96
Really, well I disagree. There are things I too would like. But I would NEVER withhold my vote
Demsrule86
Jun 2022
#104
I agree. You won't always like every Democrat but all are better than Republicans especially
Demsrule86
May 2022
#80
No it is not. You know what Fetterman said when he was asked if he was progressive
Demsrule86
May 2022
#28
I agree. I don't really think this is about Fetterman although I have been told it was a proxy
Demsrule86
May 2022
#43
I do too...the numbers are not bad...I think we have shot. Tim Ryan is a good guy.
Demsrule86
May 2022
#92
They didn't steal it...it was an electoral college win. Hillary had been damaged very badly by
Demsrule86
May 2022
#47
Really, Obama won election and it was a very close primary so Clinton supporters voted
Demsrule86
May 2022
#75
That is absolute crap...The attacks continued in the General and you know it.
Demsrule86
May 2022
#77
It is not my fault but it is the fault of those who don't vote for the Democratic nominee in
Demsrule86
May 2022
#74
I heard the same thing with Gore and it is just plain wrong. In a close election every vote
Demsrule86
Jun 2022
#98
Look at any time that an incumbent was primaryed and it destroyed said election is the
Demsrule86
Jun 2022
#103
Hillary was damage goods after the primary...going into the General and the negativity did not
Demsrule86
Jun 2022
#108
I know...every Justice who overturned Roe came from an election that a Democrat was fucked
Demsrule86
Jul 2022
#118
I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 convention and saw how Russia pushed Sanders supports to revolt
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 2022
#110
A lot of young people did not vote after their "man" did not win the primary. As far as
walkingman
May 2022
#69
Sanders' voters voted TFG in sufficient numbers to swing the key states
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 2022
#112
My interpretation: Make sure Democrats differentiate themselves from Republicans and listen to
Autumn
May 2022
#15
If enough on our side (nominally) keep voting that way autumn, we will have a Trump or a
Demsrule86
May 2022
#30
Check your crystal ball and save your pious lecture. I have never missed an election
Autumn
May 2022
#36
Did I say you? I didn't you know. I merely pointed out that if folks vote as you described
Demsrule86
May 2022
#49
It's nice to feel important. What has decided elections, besides Bush, which was thrown,
58Sunliner
May 2022
#25
Right exactly, we didn't show up...sends a message doesn't. Of course I think the message is 'hey
Demsrule86
May 2022
#37
I think we need a national program, of commercials, etc., telling people the importance of voting.
58Sunliner
May 2022
#86
First of all, I know people who don't vote. When I GOTV, people tell me they don't vote and why..
Demsrule86
May 2022
#87
That is right. And the thing that drives me nuts is this...more than 20 years later with multiple
Demsrule86
May 2022
#88
Haha...OK really well since we lost I assume the low turnout was on our side I find that tragic.
Demsrule86
May 2022
#89
It the Greens and others had not attacked Gore, he would have won easily and there would
Demsrule86
May 2022
#53
Idealogical purity is just another word for too stupid to figure it out.
world wide wally
May 2022
#51
I wish people realized that voting is not an act of love or devotion...
BlueCheeseAgain
May 2022
#54