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112. Sanders' voters voted TFG in sufficient numbers to swing the key states

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 12:28 PM

Jul 2022

Here is some more on this topic http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters’ refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.

Here is some more https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/24/16194086/bernie-trump-voters-study

About 12 percent of Bernie Sanders supporters from the Democratic primary crossed party lines and voted for Donald Trump in the general election, a new analysis says.

In several key states — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — the number of Sanders to Trump defectors were greater than Trump’s margin of victory, according to new numbers released Wednesday by UMass professor Brian Schaffner.

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Discuss..... [View all] brooklynite May 2022 OP

I'm a Democratic socialist (small "s") who has ALWAYS... dchill May 2022 #1

+1 nt Javaman May 2022 #50

The beatings will continue until morale improves questionseverything May 2022 #59

I know, I know. It already started to rankle years ago. dchill May 2022 #67

I suppose some believe that beatings will raise morale. I do not. What fairy dust will Demsrule86 May 2022 #90

+1 insulting and divisive. Emile May 2022 #76

The young are politically naive, volatile, and easily misled bucolic_frolic May 2022 #2

There were over 6 million Obama-Trump voters AZProgressive May 2022 #3

From comparable studies of how voters have voted in the general after their CentralMass May 2022 #4

The difference is that Obama became president iemanja May 2022 #5

The other difference was both tRump and Hillary had historically low favorability ratings in 2016. CentralMass May 2022 #11

Please stop defending what happened in 16. I can't continue. As is stands women will die Demsrule86 May 2022 #79

+1 SunImp May 2022 #83

Clinton got 3,000,000+ votes more than MF45 FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #20

She lost inthewind21 May 2022 #82

Also, there's a huge difference between McCain and Trump. BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #55

I think there is plenty of blame. I do not find your analysis convincing. Had those who Demsrule86 May 2022 #91

The impact tells the general election story. lapucelle Jul 2022 #111

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #115

Blame the left whenever right wing candidates win jcgoldie May 2022 #6

I'm not blaming them for 1972, 1980, 1984 and 1988.... brooklynite May 2022 #8

I blame Ted Kennedy for 1980. You primary a sitting president, you lose. NO Demsrule86 May 2022 #24

It's called math. paleotn May 2022 #44

I am a progressive and I vote in every election. I love Obama but he had one issue that I didn't Demsrule86 May 2022 #56

de rec nt Celerity May 2022 #7

Ah, yes! We used to say unrec around here. dchill May 2022 #68

Except ymetca May 2022 #9

maybe it works to go for what you really believe in MadameButterfly May 2022 #19

AMEN! FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #21

It has nothing to do with that. It is called party loyalty...they vote Republicans whether they Demsrule86 May 2022 #26

Progressives and anyone else should always vote the Democratic candidate. And the fact that some Demsrule86 May 2022 #39

Saying how someone else should vote isn't going to get them to vote MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #95

I don't believe if these voters are not motivated to vote after what has and is going on, we Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #96

They have a right to complain MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #101

Really, well I disagree. There are things I too would like. But I would NEVER withhold my vote Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #104

we don't disagree as much as you think MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #106

I saw these complaints up close and first hand LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #116

Wasn't it the voters who chose Hillary wnylib May 2022 #48

I think that really only applies for Trump. plimsoll May 2022 #35

You misidentify lock step and pragmatism for purity. paleotn May 2022 #52

I agree. You won't always like every Democrat but all are better than Republicans especially Demsrule86 May 2022 #80

I agree. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #100

Is this a mad about Fetterman post? BeyondGeography May 2022 #10

I was wondering what the context of this was Sympthsical May 2022 #12

No. brooklynite May 2022 #13

No it is not. You know what Fetterman said when he was asked if he was progressive Demsrule86 May 2022 #28

Hey there BeyondGeography May 2022 #34

I agree. I don't really think this is about Fetterman although I have been told it was a proxy Demsrule86 May 2022 #43

I'm good BeyondGeography May 2022 #46

I do too...the numbers are not bad...I think we have shot. Tim Ryan is a good guy. Demsrule86 May 2022 #92

Me too! Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #113

!!!! BumRushDaShow May 2022 #32

Me thinks the op just likes to stir questionseverything May 2022 #41

Yes, and I got to say this post surprises me. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #105

My two cents... walkingman May 2022 #14

how was Berrnie a spoiler MadameButterfly May 2022 #16

Come on...the General was lost. Demsrule86 May 2022 #29

She got 3million more votes. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #31

They didn't steal it...it was an electoral college win. Hillary had been damaged very badly by Demsrule86 May 2022 #47

They stole it legally. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #70

Party Unity My Ass AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #73

Really, Obama won election and it was a very close primary so Clinton supporters voted Demsrule86 May 2022 #75

That is absolute crap...The attacks continued in the General and you know it. Demsrule86 May 2022 #77

See the problem? ymetca May 2022 #71

It is not my fault but it is the fault of those who don't vote for the Democratic nominee in Demsrule86 May 2022 #74

If only that were true ymetca May 2022 #85

I heard the same thing with Gore and it is just plain wrong. In a close election every vote Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #98

+1 betsuni May 2022 #72

Democratic nominees are not destroyed by contetious primaries MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #94

I disagree...go back to 1980 with Kennedy, Carter never recovered. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #97

There's hardly a comparison MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #102

Look at any time that an incumbent was primaryed and it destroyed said election is the Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #103

Exactly, Hillary was not an incumbant MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #107

Hillary was damage goods after the primary...going into the General and the negativity did not Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #108

Hillary and her supporters MadameButterfly Jul 2022 #109

No denying that.. although Cha Jul 2022 #114

I know...every Justice who overturned Roe came from an election that a Democrat was fucked Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #118

I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 convention and saw how Russia pushed Sanders supports to revolt LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #110

I do...some however would like to change history. But it is what it is. Demsrule86 May 2022 #93

A lot of young people did not vote after their "man" did not win the primary. As far as walkingman May 2022 #69

Sanders' voters voted TFG in sufficient numbers to swing the key states LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #112

Bernie as VP? Really? wnylib May 2022 #58

My interpretation: Make sure Democrats differentiate themselves from Republicans and listen to Autumn May 2022 #15

If enough on our side (nominally) keep voting that way autumn, we will have a Trump or a Demsrule86 May 2022 #30

Check your crystal ball and save your pious lecture. I have never missed an election Autumn May 2022 #36

Did I say you? I didn't you know. I merely pointed out that if folks vote as you described Demsrule86 May 2022 #49

My interpretation: every HORRIBLE President is a Repuke FakeNoose May 2022 #17

Gore got more votes FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #22

You are exactly...right! Demsrule86 May 2022 #78

Environmental activists? WTF? dpibel May 2022 #18

Yep. 58Sunliner May 2022 #27

+1000000 Demsrule86 May 2022 #23

It's nice to feel important. What has decided elections, besides Bush, which was thrown, 58Sunliner May 2022 #25

Right exactly, we didn't show up...sends a message doesn't. Of course I think the message is 'hey Demsrule86 May 2022 #37

I think we need a national program, of commercials, etc., telling people the importance of voting. 58Sunliner May 2022 #86

First of all, I know people who don't vote. When I GOTV, people tell me they don't vote and why.. Demsrule86 May 2022 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 May 2022 #38

Had those in FL voted for Gore instead of Nader.... paleotn May 2022 #42

That is right. And the thing that drives me nuts is this...more than 20 years later with multiple Demsrule86 May 2022 #88

Haha...OK really well since we lost I assume the low turnout was on our side I find that tragic. Demsrule86 May 2022 #89

BEST friend Traildogbob May 2022 #33

Not all that admirable in my mind. paleotn May 2022 #40

If the ballots had been counted in 2000, gore would of won questionseverything May 2022 #45

It the Greens and others had not attacked Gore, he would have won easily and there would Demsrule86 May 2022 #53

He did easily win, the votes were not accurately counted questionseverything May 2022 #57

No Willto May 2022 #81

Idealogical purity is just another word for too stupid to figure it out. world wide wally May 2022 #51

I wish people realized that voting is not an act of love or devotion... BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #54

Sirhan Sirhan had a LOT to do with any decisions that were made in 1968. 11 Bravo May 2022 #60

I was going to post a reply then I said AntivaxHunters May 2022 #61

I've got bad news for you Novara May 2022 #62

Then I guess Republicans will continue to win...as their voters are not doing that. Loyalty matters. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #99

Cheating! They cheat too. And they're damned proud of it. czarjak May 2022 #63

Heads Up. Next time may be our last time. Joinfortmill May 2022 #64

Captain Obvious Patton French May 2022 #65

my humble interpretation - bluboid May 2022 #66

I agree with your analysls LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #117

Gracious! H2O Man May 2022 #84