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Hortensis

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17. :) You've hit on a basic difference between liberal and conservative personality.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 07:49 AM
Dec 2022

In general, conservatives have a darker view of human nature and tend to believe people will behave badly if not required to behave better. (There's a LOT of explanation of conservative political choices in this.)

I remember learning to my surprise 25 years ago that a very conservative business owner kept the supply closet locked not because she considered her staff a bunch of contemptible thieves, but to maintain order by creating a structure that helped the staff not slip into wrong behavior. She liked and respected her staff (who knew?!) and was doing her duty to herself and them as she saw it.

Compared to my own more optimistic, typical liberal, "most people are basically good" attitude, the conservatives have turned out to be more right. But I think that's more because they "know" themselves better than I did and, like most of us, tend to evaluate others by themselves. Not that the left are exactly extempt, but most liberals have significantly less "dark" potential though still there. The farther "illiberal" left, the less like liberals.

Most people want to be good, we know that!, but too often get confused about what that is and end up not knowing. Whatever internal compasses we might have, too many are no match for insidious political manipulation of our notions of right and wrong and need to go along with our tribe.

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Ditto (tho I'm not on an island.) elleng Dec 2022 #1
Sorry mate mahina Dec 2022 #2
ditto ShepKat Dec 2022 #9
Our current crop of republicans are exceptions to that. They've shown that they tolerate... brush Dec 2022 #3
Yep. When they show you who they are, believe them. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #30
I've never been sure either way. I suspect there is some cosmic... TreasonousBastard Dec 2022 #4
I live in an area where they just shot up the power substations to stop a drag show Jamastiene Dec 2022 #5
I get the feeling that the motive was stopping the drag show and it's being covered up Walleye Dec 2022 #16
They already have found photos with the woman who bragged about it Jamastiene Dec 2022 #24
This echoes the disillusionment of a German gentleman that I know. Mister Ed Dec 2022 #6
Ive been wondering what other peoples have been thinking of us, also. demigoddess Dec 2022 #38
We have a couple of dear friends in Australia as well. Mister Ed Dec 2022 #40
It's been decades of slowly chipping away Cosmocat Dec 2022 #7
There are all kinds of people, ranging from extremely good to LuckyCharms Dec 2022 #8
Depends on the culture. betsuni Dec 2022 #10
I've learned that there are greedy, selfish, dishonest and even evil folks malaise Dec 2022 #11
What the heck would she do murielm99 Dec 2022 #12
Give her son or her man for Christmas? malaise Dec 2022 #14
Unreal. moonscape Dec 2022 #20
Unreal indeed malaise Dec 2022 #21
Wow. mahina Dec 2022 #27
You know what pissed me off malaise Dec 2022 #37
Americans are opportunistic. OldBaldy1701E Dec 2022 #13
I arrived last week from DR, back to the states for a few months. secondwind Dec 2022 #15
:) You've hit on a basic difference between liberal and conservative personality. Hortensis Dec 2022 #17
I'm liberal, and I'm afraid I've never believed that most people are basically good. shrike3 Dec 2022 #26
:) Umhmm, sounds pretty liberal and nice to me. Hortensis Dec 2022 #39
That's some insight. mahina Dec 2022 #28
I'm afraid that woman was the reason I finally went and got Hortensis Dec 2022 #36
I avoid MAGAt fascists to the greatest degree possible. Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2022 #18
Confucius said, "People suck" dalton99a Dec 2022 #19
No Exit is fabulous. JanMichael Dec 2022 #43
Social media highly exaggerates and magnifies the bad Sympthsical Dec 2022 #22
Thinking about the everyday people who take care of others mahina Dec 2022 #35
A great question Lulu KC Feb 2023 #46
Americans do not value human life or quality of life. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #23
+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #34
By far not the first time this discussion/observation has been made. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #25
This kind of discussion makes me think of Anne Frank. shrike3 Dec 2022 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2022 #31
I still find most people are basically good. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #32
Here's a hope. mahina Dec 2022 #33
People are still mostly good RobertMcNamara Dec 2022 #41
The extremists are getting more extreme. Initech Dec 2022 #42
You meet some good & some bad. Trump was very "BAD"... BIDEN is VERY GOOD & CARES ABOUT PEOPLE. Stuart G Dec 2022 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Stuart G Dec 2022 #45
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