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ProgressiveProfessor

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69. Actually places like NYC are environmental disasters

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:23 PM

Nov 2012

Much of it comes from historical misuse of the environment resulting in higher levels of toxins and pollution. The models are clear, over time there is going to have to be massive cleanup and areas abandoned. Detroit is coming to NYC, just a question of when.

Due to the NIMBY factor, large cities are able to steal resources from outlying areas and use them as their dumping grounds for their trash. its not just NYC, LA is no better. LADWP created environmental disasters in the Owens Valley and LA exports their trash to the central valley.

Personally I create quite a bit more energy than I consume, even though I do commute on my 60mpg vehicle. Its called solar power, something that is fundamentally untenable in large cities.

I should add, that I lived in NYC for a while and yes I was glad to get out of there to places where the water and air were clean.

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My...before the storm hit [View all] nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 OP

Always, I appreciate your posts. MissMarple Nov 2012 #1

Thanks nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #2

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huh crap how the hell did we get irradiated milk from sandy loli phabay Nov 2012 #5

It's from the tsunami and fukashima. rug Nov 2012 #8

okay i guess thanks, i will avoid milk from japan i suppose loli phabay Nov 2012 #11

And you are being as predictable as always nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #7

Pretty tacky there, rug. MineralMan Nov 2012 #46

So are I told you so posts. rug Nov 2012 #48

The thing is that I'm not a big fan of the OP's style. MineralMan Nov 2012 #49

Careful... HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #4

I know, why i took the exact tone I did nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #6

I distinctly remember reading Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #9

Large metro area, common assumption nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12

really justabob Nov 2012 #31

And New York apartments are so small 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #38

That definitely is part of the problem. I don't really know where I would put a couple of gallons merrily Nov 2012 #72

And this turned out to be 100% true. Our supermarket was closed for bettyellen Nov 2012 #50

NOT 100% true in all areas of the city - what about this video from WNBC on Thursday?? 3 days after kath Nov 2012 #54

The east village, LOL. Tons of stuff was open. But divers were looking for FREE bettyellen Nov 2012 #55

Oh, so the reporter LIED when he said all the bodegas & restaurants in the area were closed. kath Nov 2012 #57

Go to stores and restaurants next to hospitals. They always get their power up first. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #59

It's really random here who got power back. bettyellen Nov 2012 #65

"That area" is about eight square blocks and a ten minute walk to bettyellen Nov 2012 #61

Not only an open restaurant, but several that deliver. merrily Nov 2012 #71

Ain't that the truth. Yet folks living outside the city begrudge us that. bettyellen Nov 2012 #75

I do not understand that. Then again, I love cities. merrily Nov 2012 #76

These people were actually hoping NYC was shut down. Sad. bettyellen Nov 2012 #77

Yes, good post. iemitsu Nov 2012 #10

You welcome. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13

yes, its a matter of habit. iemitsu Nov 2012 #27

There was plenty of warning. texanwitch Nov 2012 #14

I know. It most likely be before Sandy and After Sandy nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #16

Before and after is right. texanwitch Nov 2012 #18

Yup...I was a young trainee nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #19

We were on our own after Hurricane Ike, nobody brought us food. texanwitch Nov 2012 #22

And in quake country fill anytime you reach half a tank. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #25

That is a good thing to do anytime. texanwitch Nov 2012 #26

"Maybe now people will pay attention to storms." 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #39

I offered some advice as well, Separation Nov 2012 #15

The Captain of the Bounty took it more seriously. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #17

+1 Separation Nov 2012 #20

Take him to take it easy on that shoulder. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23

Too true about the Rockaways, just read a personal description flamingdem Nov 2012 #21

I am not shocked at all nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24

People who are not too familiar with these storms marions ghost Nov 2012 #28

Excellent post malaise Nov 2012 #29

Those of us who have been in similar situations know Mariana Nov 2012 #30

There are things that are a little more expensive nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #34

Oh, absolutely, and I have one. Mariana Nov 2012 #35

Yup, probably will take advantage of a sale this year nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #36

You only need to buy it once, at least. Mariana Nov 2012 #42

If the goal is mere survival it's pretty cheap 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #40

Exactly. There's no reason for MOST people Mariana Nov 2012 #43

Good post. We always keep an emergency pack on hand. I was surprised your other Autumn Nov 2012 #32

It's DU...and aggressive callous are allowed nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #33

Well I tried to point out the double standards in meta...I think the problem is you are too nice ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #53

Well said. 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #37

I second this sentiment as well. DeschutesRiver Nov 2012 #44

Disasters are something that happens to other people 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #45

Sorry but the OP was tossing off hostile insults. bettyellen Nov 2012 #51

I did not miss it, nor your extreme hubris and denials ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #52

Entitlement would mean we think we should deserve all this stuff. bettyellen Nov 2012 #56

And the disproportionate use of resources, and the exporting of it trash and toxins. ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #62

Way to hide your nasty bias! At least you've come to admit that bettyellen Nov 2012 #64

Actually places like NYC are environmental disasters ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #69

Ha. Just give everyone 40 acres and a solar powered vehicle!! bettyellen Nov 2012 #74

Pot, meet kettle. You've posted dozens of hostile, obnoxious posts over various threads in the kath Nov 2012 #58

I certainly did not hurl nasty and direct personal insults as that poster did bettyellen Nov 2012 #67

Actually you did and showed a level of hubris normally associated with 1%ers ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #68

FFS excess food and generators were fucking useless to us. bettyellen Nov 2012 #73

Good post Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #41

Rec'd. Good Post! Kaleva Nov 2012 #47

Just hauled everything in my freezer to the curb. aquart Nov 2012 #60

Glad you are ok though nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #63

Me and mine have been so fortunate in all this so far. aquart Nov 2012 #66

Indeed even the Rockaways are...they had some warning ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #70