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34. Putin hasn't changed, nor has RT. The invasion of Ukraine didn't happen in a vacuum.

Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:53 AM

Jun 2023

2014 was the beginning of the Russo-Ukranian War. It was also the year Putin invaded Crimea, which was basically a warm-up for Ukraine.

Hartmann was on RT for three more years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

RT was state-supported propaganda then, as it is now. I find it curious that you think I'm attacking you personally for suggesting that we should all take issue with and not provide legitimacy to Russian propaganda. I stand by my statement.

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How legit is Thom Hartmann? [View all] Patterson Jun 2023 OP

VERY elleng Jun 2023 #1

He's ok. Very thoughtful. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #2

He was anti-Hillary. I haven't forgiven him for that. And he also used to have his show pnwmom Jun 2023 #23

I am no longer watching him either for the same reasons. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #55

Extermely Sanity Claws Jun 2023 #3

You can judge for yourself. He is on many media outlets... SalviaBlue Jun 2023 #4

Maybe you'll get to ask him. nolabear Jun 2023 #5

Not really. He never replies. I think he has an intern who posts announcements for him though. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #56

He's legit. For a while progressives had nowhere to go after the demise of Air America Radio hlthe2b Jun 2023 #6

I see RT's direct editorial influence in every single RT show he did. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #16

I didn't watch during this period and only give context to his decision. hlthe2b Jun 2023 #30

It is hard, if not impossible, for an American political pundit, let alone a left-leaning American Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #37

RT had no editorial control over his show. I've seen revisionism trying to falsely claim this for Celerity Jun 2023 #40

I see quite a bit of revisionism of my post in yours. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #41

It should probably rankle everyone. TwilightZone Jun 2023 #22

I only explained why he went there. THis was way before the Ukraine invasion. His decision was his. hlthe2b Jun 2023 #29

Putin hasn't changed, nor has RT. The invasion of Ukraine didn't happen in a vacuum. TwilightZone Jun 2023 #34

I never trust a former KGB, but the truth is there was a time when most MSM laid out the red carpet hlthe2b Jun 2023 #35

There is plenty to be said about most MSM at that time, but Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #38

I was not at all responding to you which is why you failed to understand the context it appears. hlthe2b Jun 2023 #45

He is a member of DU, AFAIK Grasswire2 Jun 2023 #7

I found his books on ADHD back in the multigraincracker Jun 2023 #8

Very insightful on ADD. He's a wide-ranging author. Hekate Jun 2023 #18

He is one of my top 3 people gab13by13 Jun 2023 #9

Legitimate in what respect? Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #10

+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #12

I enjoyed him in Air America days Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #11

A ton of online info, YouTubes, podcasts, etc. cbabe Jun 2023 #13

Superb. Brilliant. NewHendoLib Jun 2023 #14

I can't trust a guy who worked with RT for years. They were always shitty propaganda. thebigidea Jun 2023 #15

He lost me in the pre-Trump days MurrayDelph Jun 2023 #21

He is very good, I listen to him just about every day on Sirius XM nt doc03 Jun 2023 #17

Me, too. He has addressed the issue of his broadcasting on RT Deuxcents Jun 2023 #25

Mixed, but most of the opposition you will hear is about his time on Russia Today (RT)... JHB Jun 2023 #19

You're leaving out how he would attack Hillary from his RT platform. nt pnwmom Jun 2023 #24

I had forgotten about that. eShirl Jun 2023 #32

They gave him a big expensive set for his primetime show. That's why he was there. Earth-shine Jun 2023 #26

Uh no. boston bean Jun 2023 #20

He quoted me twice: PCIntern Jun 2023 #27

It depends what audience he's targeting. Sometimes the information is correct, sometimes not. betsuni Jun 2023 #28

He is the best! Emile Jun 2023 #31

not any more milestogo Jun 2023 #33

He is on Free Speech TV everyday. Tune in, you will like him. Emile Jun 2023 #36

Meh. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #39

I don't care for him...turned his show on a day or so ago...it is on FSTV. And it was 2016 Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #43

Legit in the sense that he IS Thom Hartmann. MineralMan Jun 2023 #44

That was during the primary. He was a Bernie guy. After the nomination he was Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #46

You are correct... after the primary, he supported Hillary just like Bernie did.. SalviaBlue Jun 2023 #48

He was a big Hillary supporter. Some people have short memories Emile Jun 2023 #49

I don't think it is a memory thing... Caliman73 Jun 2023 #51

And I'll add that implying that Hartmann helped get Trump elected is repoulsive. Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #53

Your feelings mirror mine. Thank you. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #47

Hartmann has been on the air for a long long time. Caliman73 Jun 2023 #50

Very. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2023 #52

I feel the need to remind some people here that Thom Hartmann is a member of this community. Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #54