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Sympthsical

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6. A plagiarist who let antisemitism fester

Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:41 PM

Jan 2024

People need to stop apologizing for people behaving poorly because of which "side" they're on. She had a ton of issues, and if she were on the Right, we'd not even be having the conversation.

A President cannot lead a university when they've done things the average student would get tossed for. And it really didn't help when the university pulled a "we've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing." Right. And we'd accept that from anyone else?

If people really want to restore Harvard's reputation (which is indisputably messed up at the moment) they'd be taking a long hard look at the corporate board. Which may very well be the next step. I'm curious to see if Pritzker lasts.

The students deserve better.

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HARVARD PRESIDENT CLAUDINE GAY RESIGNS, SHORTEST TENURE IN UNIVERSITY HISTORY [View all] Nevilledog Jan 2024 OP

Pretty much saw this coming. Mosby Jan 2024 #1

That, and 40 counts of plagiarism Groundhawg Jan 2024 #5

Institutional racism is live and well. malaise Jan 2024 #2

As is institutional anti-Semitism. OilemFirchen Jan 2024 #4

Now, they'll get themselves an old white dude Bettie Jan 2024 #7

Just get someone qualified this time Raine Jan 2024 #12

She shouldn't have been offered a job Raine Jan 2024 #8

It's racism not to hold her to the same standards as others Sympthsical Jan 2024 #9

Not everything Mossfern Jan 2024 #19

You misspelled "Institutional antisemitism". AkFemDem Jan 2024 #34

I don't think the facts support either of those statements. yardwork Jan 2024 #41

This story seems more complicated than at first glance PJMcK Jan 2024 #63

Will Bunch Nevilledog Jan 2024 #3

A plagiarist who let antisemitism fester Sympthsical Jan 2024 #6

What are the 4 or 5 most egregious? dpibel Jan 2024 #64

Have we learned nothing . . . Sympthsical Jan 2024 #66

Good. nt LexVegas Jan 2024 #10

Good, she should have resigned long ago. nt Raine Jan 2024 #11

Do you think she got a fucking fair shake or did she get the bum steer? SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #21

How would people have reacted here if she'd been a conservative? The Mouth Jan 2024 #23

+1 That makes total sense. Thank you. SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #26

Wonder what her severance payout was ? MichMan Jan 2024 #13

I hope folks are ready to defend universities and colleges in their communities, because this is only the beginning, and WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #14

Yup. Some don't understand that this is a planned attack on higher ed. Nevilledog Jan 2024 #15

Yep. That, and an attack on any DEI efforts in any public-facing institution or system. Anyone celebrating it does not WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #16

They're bragging about it Nevilledog Jan 2024 #35

It's laughable that community college dropout Charlie Kirk, Tanuki Jan 2024 #43

Agreed. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #18

If plagiarism in academia is so widespread, why do colleges all have policies that prohibit it for students? MichMan Jan 2024 #40

I am not defending plagiarism. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #51

If I were any university president, jimfields33 Jan 2024 #55

It isn't a matter of societal expectations. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #59

"Until all University/college presidents are subjected to the same level of scrutiny" MichMan Jan 2024 #58

It would not be a bad idea for publication verification to be part of the hiring process. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #62

There are new examples of far more extensive plagiarism in her works. yardwork Jan 2024 #42

I've seen those, Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #46

Well, I know of a research dean who resigned for far less. yardwork Jan 2024 #47

It is disheartening. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #57

It's challenging, and AI will make it worse. yardwork Jan 2024 #67

Harvard permitted Gay to retroactively make revisions to remove the plagiarism MichMan Jan 2024 #69

She also did NOT have "a significant number of published papers or books" FBaggins Jan 2024 #48

Not good. yardwork Jan 2024 #54

Every single thing I write for school gets run through a plagiarism check Sympthsical Jan 2024 #65

Don't give reasons to end employment. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #20

No one should get a pass on anti-Semitism or plagarism The Mouth Jan 2024 #25

"No one should get a pass on anti-Semitism or plagarism" WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #28

LOL, The Mouth Jan 2024 #30

. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #36

1+1 equals 2 The Mouth Jan 2024 #52

Motive only matters to those who want to excuse bad behavior Sympthsical Jan 2024 #38

I think it's what tanked Dr. Gay's position. yardwork Jan 2024 #44

She is lucky that Harvard didn't rescind her doctorate MichMan Jan 2024 #49

That would be extreme. yardwork Jan 2024 #56

Perhaps MichMan Jan 2024 #60

We on the left must find a way to hold university leaders accountable Docreed2003 Jan 2024 #17

Plenty of people are playing directly into the hands of the christofascists The Mouth Jan 2024 #32

My first and only thought on this is - walkingman Jan 2024 #22

She is remaining on staff as faculty MichMan Jan 2024 #24

I wonder what's going to happen if she finds a student plagiarizing their work? Dr. Strange Jan 2024 #45

Great question MichMan Jan 2024 #61

I assume this also means that any student calling for the extermination of the Palestinians Gaugamela Jan 2024 #27

👍 claudette Jan 2024 #31

Give us a ring when that happens. OilemFirchen Jan 2024 #37

So . . . got anything besides gaslighting? Gaugamela Jan 2024 #70

Gaslighting! False Framing! Straw Dog! OilemFirchen Jan 2024 #72

As I have pointed out repeatedly, support for Netanyahu and his administration is Gaugamela Jan 2024 #73

MY SIDE? OilemFirchen Jan 2024 #75

Absolutely, let me know when that's happening elias7 Jan 2024 #53

Please see my reply to the above post that you dittoheaded. Gaugamela Jan 2024 #74

Seems claudette Jan 2024 #29

I expect you're right. Academia does not tolerate plagiarism, and when you combine Gaugamela Jan 2024 #33

They weren't suddenly discovered Sympthsical Jan 2024 #39

Good. Elessar Zappa Jan 2024 #50

Let's not lose sight of the fact snot Jan 2024 #68

lol good luck y'all WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #71