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Sympthsical

(10,399 posts)
49. Yes and no. We got "Got mine!" better
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 01:15 PM
Mar 2024

Let me explain. If you took our general situation, wages vs. expenses, we'd be a fair bit worse. 5% increase in income since 2019, and expenses have just been spiraling in places. Not just groceries. Things like insurance. Our home owner's insurance just went "WTF?!" in recent years. Auto. Health, etc. Utilities are flyin upwards. Gotta love that PG&E. Lot of things sapped at our base income.

However! How-ev-er. We're not struggling. We're towards the higher end of middle class? I don't know where we land, because the numbers are a lot different in the Bay Area of California. But we've been fairly comfortable DINKS.

On paper, there are some things. Our home value increased 30% since 2019. Great for us! Not for anyone else, but great for us! Because we actually are home owners. And more or less fuck you if you didn't buy pre-pandemic. We're also insulated from the PG&E shitshow. All our friends are complaining - can't wait until the summer to watch this one - but we're fine. Why? Because we threw $20,000 at solar. Because we had $20,000 to throw at solar. We're about to be a lot better, because I went back to school and will make significantly more once I'm done. That's not an economy thing, though. That's a personal initiative thing. I'm bustin my ass to do this.

Because we already had money, we're insulated from a lot of the problems. But if it was a straight up income vs. costs, no we'd not be doing better. The increase in various costs would be awful if our income was the sole metric.

And I think DU is showing this a bit. Much older demographic. I've been calling it "Got mine!" better.

It's a K-shape. If you're good, there are things like stocks and property that keep you good. If you're paycheck to paycheck, cost increases in various areas can eat you away.

My friends who were already good are still good. My friends who were dog paddling to make it are dog paddling just a little bit harder these days.

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No Polybius Mar 2024 #1
Wow Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #8
Individual Polybius Mar 2024 #10
Sorry Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #13
Can you consider putting future savings in an S&P index fund? Nt spooky3 Mar 2024 #32
Ouch! Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #42
A lot of retirement stock are tied to the bond market Johonny Mar 2024 #11
Mie is over 30%. sinkingfeeling Mar 2024 #20
I am sorry to hear that. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2024 #41
Our investments lost 10% in 2022, but regained everything in 2023. brooklynite Mar 2024 #46
Your stocks are down that much? yardwork Mar 2024 #53
Stocks down 75%? You need a new broker. spanone Mar 2024 #55
Your stocks are down??? llmart Jun 2024 #61
Yup Polybius Jun 2024 #62
Despite inflation, and all the horrors, I personally am doing much better niyad Mar 2024 #2
Much better. Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #3
I voted yes Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #4
laid off 4 years ago, now making 2/3 my former $ RainCaster Mar 2024 #5
I hope your $ improve. Your answer had to be complicated karynnj Mar 2024 #9
Yes redqueen Mar 2024 #6
Much better in most respects PatSeg Mar 2024 #7
Money in the bank Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #17
Those statistics are interesting PatSeg Mar 2024 #24
Great post Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #27
That brings back so memories PatSeg Mar 2024 #38
Student loans Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #12
Much better Trashman272 Mar 2024 #14
About the same ITAL Mar 2024 #15
Everyone I know is way better off now than before 2020. Higher income, better jobs. Heck my youngest is graduating MenloParque Mar 2024 #16
Same Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #18
Yes and no. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #19
Hope you can find a good new one. Nt spooky3 Mar 2024 #33
My retirement/401k is the highest it's ever been - right now; my salary LeftinOH Mar 2024 #21
Yes, much better! beaglelover Mar 2024 #22
I am genuinely shocked at these results Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #23
Or limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #28
Was trying to only get the pulse of DU Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #31
Fair enough limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #35
More good data in the internals regarding low income workers Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #39
Doing better because of investments but lynintenn Mar 2024 #25
I've been treading water for years pfitz59 Mar 2024 #26
i have made more money, , saved more money and spent more on luxury expenses than the previous 4 MistakenLamb Mar 2024 #29
I have gained back my losses from Trump's Emile Mar 2024 #30
I think the media buys this myth of the pre Covid Trump economy Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #37
Financially yes; health no, but it's not terrible. Nt spooky3 Mar 2024 #34
Anecdotally, I have been trying to hire people to remodel my home, with no luck. Midnight Writer Mar 2024 #36
And plumbers. It seems they've gone extinct. Vinca Mar 2024 #40
Yes. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2024 #43
No TexasBushwhacker Mar 2024 #44
I contemplated that. Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #48
I really need to work at least another year TexasBushwhacker Mar 2024 #50
I don't know what your aptitudes are - Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #54
Way the hell better... GreenWave Mar 2024 #45
Own personal finances and general situation are two different things. Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #47
Yes and no. We got "Got mine!" better Sympthsical Mar 2024 #49
Not sure on the K shaped Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #56
I'm in a much worse spot happybird Mar 2024 #51
I'm older and fatter. Oh! You meant am I better off under Biden? yardwork Mar 2024 #52
Financially much, much worse Tree-Hugger Mar 2024 #57
Very sorry for your situation Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #59
Chugging along GenThePerservering Mar 2024 #58
I turned 80 last Sunday. Ping Tung Mar 2024 #60
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