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Ms. Toad

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59. Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution,

Tue Jul 2, 2024, 03:02 AM

Jul 2

Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, which permits a suspension of the writ “when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."

There is a difference between conscientious objection to a law by individuals, carried out with the willingness to accept the punishment for violation of the law, and one person declaring himself dictator and above the law. The latter destroys democracy, even if it is done with the best of intentions.

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Biden's "absolute immunity" speech: Satisfied or not? [View all] ecstatic Jul 1 OP

bit of a campaign speech tho nt msongs Jul 1 #1

That too. I think he should have taken questions ecstatic Jul 1 #5

Disagree asm128 Jul 1 #7

So the President should ignore the press for the next four months? brooklynite Jul 1 #13

Yes. edisdead Jul 1 #20

How many successful national campaigns have you ran media relations for? Zeitghost Jul 2 #47

Maybe YOU should... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2 #46

He shoupd have taken questions. Be stronger!!! Trueblue1968 Jul 2 #50

And? Cha Jul 1 #8

Warranted under the circumstances because wnylib Jul 1 #26

he would have been neglectful not mentioning one of the greatest threats to our democracy bigtree Jul 1 #35

these types of polls are unfortunately too often used as 'gotcha' games Celerity Jul 1 #2

true. I guess my issue is ecstatic Jul 1 #10

I will make a statement I have not made before. If Trump wins and has the House and Senate, the Union of Celerity Jul 1 #11

I agree. I've thought secession might be the best option, even though it opens up a world of problems. shrike3 Jul 1 #14

The country has been set upon a course wherein an out-of-control, corrupted, non-accountable (in actual real-world Celerity Jul 1 #17

Bleak scenario. But probably accurate. It may come about we have no other option. shrike3 Jul 1 #21

That is scary. I hope my blue state takes me back ecstatic Jul 1 #29

We are now travelling toward an inescapable head on collision wnylib Jul 1 #32

There's no longer Rule of Law..There is only Presidential Law. erodriguez Jul 2 #54

What he said orangecrush Jul 1 #3

There is a contingent of folks who were not going not be happy unless he announced summary executions. tritsofme Jul 1 #4

If he don't larwdem Jul 1 #6

I hope our side has some plans to act aggressively to thwart republican voter suppression and any ballot fraud brewens Jul 1 #9

Biden and Harris JustAnotherGen Jul 1 #12

That will not happen. We will not accept another wnylib Jul 2 #38

I don't want anyone to act like a dictator. Ms. Toad Jul 1 #15

Democracy is not on the menu, strong or otherwise. TheKentuckian Jul 1 #18

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator. Ms. Toad Jul 1 #24

I want Biden to protect us by any means possible. ecstatic Jul 1 #30

No one can protect us from a dictator by becoming one. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 1 #34

THIS !!! People don't understand if we give up freedom for security we get neither uponit7771 Jul 2 #39

We will lose both freedom and security if Trump gets into the WH again. wnylib Jul 2 #42

Vote or not, one cannot play keep away forever TheKentuckian Jul 1 #31

It it not a blemish on your soul - Ms. Toad Jul 1 #33

I'll take my chances riding with still here. TheKentuckian Jul 2 #41

Agree. But if it becomes an emergency protection of democracy, wnylib Jul 2 #40

If the case winds its way to the Supreme Court - Ms. Toad Jul 2 #43

Sorry to hear that. I am thinking of how wnylib Jul 2 #49

Apples and walnuts. Ms. Toad Jul 2 #56

Where is it authorized in the constitution? wnylib Jul 2 #58

Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, Ms. Toad Jul 2 #59

I liked the speech, but I wanted him to answer questions at the end Polybius Jul 1 #16

No. The questions would have focused on the debate wnylib Jul 2 #44

Say why. edisdead Jul 1 #19

Personally, I would have liked to see more options in the poll Polybius Jul 1 #23

Maybe it should have been a grade scale of A through F ecstatic Jul 1 #25

It's good that the speech did not reassure you. wnylib Jul 2 #45

The performance was fine if that is the point of the question. TheKentuckian Jul 2 #36

The value is that the speech laid it out in the open wnylib Jul 2 #48

Is there a transcript dweller Jul 1 #22

Maybe. It is only 5 mins long though. emulatorloo Jul 1 #28

he needs to mention the importance of avoiding project 2025 Plectranthus Jul 1 #27

JRB has always held his cards close...not giving away anything. That what makes him such a great politician PortTack Jul 2 #37

Agree. I think that he was informing the people of wnylib Jul 2 #51

His options now include new powers. BlueWavePsych Jul 2 #57

He was fine, but we have to start calling trump and the thugs out in no uncertain terms, similar to the JohnSJ Jul 2 #52

He was fine, but we have to start calling trump and the thugs out in no uncertain terms, similar to the JohnSJ Jul 2 #53

Voted No Opinion as I didn't watch it Kaleva Jul 2 #55