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DFW

(58,195 posts)
22. Holder isn't new to this
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:01 AM
Jul 2024

I'm sure Biden's recommendation had something to do with his being tapped to do this.

I'd be happy with Beshear, Cooper, Whitmer, Buttigieg or Kelly. I'm only too well aware of the arguments against two women on the ticket or an openly gay man on the ticket.

My counter argument to that is that if it's Whitmer, she has an unbelievably convincing camera presence. Both a great sense of humor, and razor sharp while thinking on her feet. She would be in high demand by every TV show from Kimmel to Jon Stewart to Maher to Maddow to Fox and Frauds. And she would setal the limelight from every single host.

If it's Buttigieg, he has been on hundreds of news/interview shows during the Biden administration, and done brilliantly EVERY time. His sovereign command of issues and details, combined with his ability to dominate an argument without getting angry or flustered have made him a towering media presence. After that, it's "gay, shmay." I think that after 90 secinds into an interview, even the most anti-gay bigot is taken in by what he has to say, rather than the sexual orientation of who is saying it.

Whether Harris is willing to take either risk is another matter altogether. She does not get this election handed to her on a silver platter, free of charge or sales tax. The damage to the ticket is likely to be minimal in either case, but "minimal" can sometimes mean the difference between winning or losing a swing state. We don't need Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden to remind us of that. They would actually be my two personal top choices, but I don't live in fantasyland.

Shapiro could probably do the job, but in today's supercharged environment, I'm not sure a Jewish VP would fare better than a gay VP. The God Squad would be working overtime against us one way or the other.

Beshear or Cooper? I like both, don't know a hell of a lot about either, although successful terms as governor of a normally red state (KY more so than NC) is no small achievement these days.

I know plenty about Mark Kelly, have known him and Gabby for about 20 years now. He was perfectly happy to take a back seat when Gabby held star status in the House, and after she was shot, always got her OK to go on missions in space, after offering to scrub them all. All Gabby had to do was ask (she wouldn't hear of it).

Washington, almost 2 years ago **:


I'm happy to let Holder do his job, and for Harris to consult with the right people and make a sensible pick based on reliable information. I'm glad she is the one to have to decide and I'm not. I don't know what I'd do with five Vice-Presidents.

**One funny note about that dinner with our 3 Democratic Senator friends--outside our little room, two Republican Senators were having dinner together: Roy Blunt of Missouri and Shelley Capito-Moore of West Virginia. They popped their heads to our room to say hi to their Democratic colleagues, and then looked me and my brother over. It was written all over their faces: "Who the hell are these two movers and shakers that they are having dinner with three Democratic Senators, and we don't have the slightest idea who they are?" I don't know if they ever got up the courage to ask, and if they did, I never heard about it. My brother and I had a good laugh about it, though.

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In my humble opinion, it HAS to be Whitmer. RedSpartan Jul 2024 #1
I hope this doesnt sound negative but a two women ticket may be a bridge too far for this country. honest.abe Jul 2024 #2
not negative DemonGoddess Jul 2024 #3
I'm still pulling for Pete GPV Jul 2024 #4
way better options than Pete. edisdead Jul 2024 #18
I agree. Music Man Jul 2024 #26
Smarts and communication skills are crucial though and he has tons of both. lark Jul 2024 #43
Me too! pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #25
Respectfully disagree. RedSpartan Jul 2024 #38
She has said she's not interested moonscape Jul 2024 #8
She has to say that RedSpartan Jul 2024 #39
She already said no, she posted that yesterday obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #13
She said she's not planning on leaving Michigan RedSpartan Jul 2024 #40
I'm pretty sure Whitmer doesn't want the position at this point in time. Greybnk48 Jul 2024 #41
Josh Shapiro is my hope. SheilaAnn Jul 2024 #5
I hope not spinbaby Jul 2024 #10
That is precisely the reason he would work so well in the VP spot. I do understand your feelings though and if this SheilaAnn Jul 2024 #12
I agree. But we need to do it for the country. debm55 Jul 2024 #28
MIne too obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #14
Yes! Shapiro! He'll make a great Potus in 8 years! lindysalsagal Jul 2024 #17
I think we need a white male governor. yardwork Jul 2024 #6
Cooper was also an AG, for what it's worth. Music Man Jul 2024 #16
Roy Cooper, governor of NC Miguelito Loveless Jul 2024 #7
I agree. Of the names bandied about he's the best underpants Jul 2024 #11
Roy Cooper is Awesome! Ruby Zee Jul 2024 #9
Shapiro, Cooper, Beshear, Kelly Docreed2003 Jul 2024 #15
This. Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #27
I think Cooper has the edge. mnhtnbb Jul 2024 #19
I've been making that point too. Music Man Jul 2024 #21
I think North Carolina has 16 electoral votes PlanetBev Jul 2024 #46
Kamala knew Beau Biden when they were both attorneys general. I think that gave her an in with Joe. Walleye Jul 2024 #30
There's not a whole lot better qualified than Holder himself. A tough on crime Democrat. He'd be able to ... marble falls Jul 2024 #20
Holder isn't new to this DFW Jul 2024 #22
Always with the great stories ! OnDoutside Jul 2024 #34
You have him pegged well. One thing to remember, though. DFW Jul 2024 #45
Thanks, the thing that I've a little doubt about is the balance of the ticket. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #47
Tim Kaine was fluent in Spanish DFW Jul 2024 #48
Beshear epreic01 Jul 2024 #23
I appreciate that. Music Man Jul 2024 #24
We'll see epreic01 Jul 2024 #32
We'll see, indeed. I like your thinking. Music Man Jul 2024 #33
Probably the same interview (Beshear) moonscape Jul 2024 #44
I agree on Beshear. The working people love him. Bitbit Jul 2024 #31
I also think epreic01 Jul 2024 #36
Shapiro or Kelly CanonRay Jul 2024 #29
Well, this gives me all the confidence! spicysista Jul 2024 #35
Any word epreic01 Jul 2024 #37
I would suspect that is two or three weeks out. DFW Jul 2024 #49
This is a great move LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #42
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