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In reply to the discussion: A Two Thousand Year Old Warning [View all]WhiskeyGrinder
(23,653 posts)8. Not a 2,000-year-old warning, not from Cicero.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/may/03/facebook-posts/no-roman-statesman-did-not-give-warning-about-trum/
We traced the quote down to a 1965 fictional novel by Taylor Caldwell called "A Pillar of Iron." On page 661 of the book, it attributes the passage to a speech Cicero made in the Roman Senate in 58 B.C. as "Recorded by Sallust."
While the novel often includes recorded speeches and letters of Cicero, it is a work of fiction, and the passage could not be located in online archives or compiled works of Ciceros writings and addresses.
Catherine Steel, professor of classics at the University of Glasgow, told PolitiFact she has not come across this quote in any of Ciceros work.
"I'm not aware that this is translation of any work of Cicero," Steel wrote in an email. "The idea of an internal threat does surface in his speeches against Catiline from 63 B.C., particularly e.g. 2.11, but there aren't any close parallels in terms of language."
While the novel often includes recorded speeches and letters of Cicero, it is a work of fiction, and the passage could not be located in online archives or compiled works of Ciceros writings and addresses.
Catherine Steel, professor of classics at the University of Glasgow, told PolitiFact she has not come across this quote in any of Ciceros work.
"I'm not aware that this is translation of any work of Cicero," Steel wrote in an email. "The idea of an internal threat does surface in his speeches against Catiline from 63 B.C., particularly e.g. 2.11, but there aren't any close parallels in terms of language."
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The words themselves may be fictional, but the ideas attributed to Cicero are not.
paleotn
Jul 2024
#15
The local library has a category named Christian Fiction. I used to move one of the Bibles from the main
spike jones
Jul 2024
#17
I'd opt for "historical fiction" as a translation from archaic English to contemporary. n/t
Igel
Jul 2024
#24
Whoever said it (and it was a woman--yah, girl-power) it describes the Gilded Turd very well.
Timeflyer
Jul 2024
#11
Here's what I don't understand about people who think they want a dictarship...
ShazzieB
Jul 2024
#35
This Twitter post is questionable. Cicero's date of death was 7 December 43 BC.
RipVanWinkle
Jul 2024
#37