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In reply to the discussion: As a Bernie guy [View all]
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)75. Why do people keep doing this? This isn't the first "let's-give-Bernie-credit" sentiment *
* that I've seen on the internet. WHY? What's the objective? What do these "but-but-but-whatabout-Bernieeee" messages intend to accomplish?
Except for his remaining time in the Senate, his political career is over. When he leaves the Senate, that's it... done... finished. He won't run for president again, and it's highly doubtful that he'll run again for Senate (we'll see.) But, for "all intensive purposes" 😉 the Bernie-era is over... insofar as it applies to national politics anyway.
Why try to resurrect it? Why try to diminish the accomplishments of the Biden/Harris administration and why try to diminish the Harris/Walz campaign with comparisons and glory-grabbing and giving credit to someone who doesn't deserve it?
Harris/Walz have done this all on their own! This is THEIR MOMENT, not Bernie's.
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This is part 2 of Joe Biden's effort to Save the Soul of America. He passed the torch during a terrific...
Hekate
Aug 2024
#3
Biden is a Democrat from birth, and his lifetime in the Senate taught him the Art of the Possible
Hekate
Aug 2024
#9
What? You don't understand the significance of he first woman president?
LymphocyteLover
Aug 2024
#211
Belief that Democrats ignored the white working class and had no economic plans, only identity politics
betsuni
Aug 2024
#281
I think so too. And every VP should or does follow the Pres. Harris will implement her own.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#272
What doubters...folks on this forum have been happy with the conduct of our candidates. And it is not
Demsrule86
Aug 2024
#16
No. KH: "We will continue to fight for affordable housing, affordable health care, affordable child care, paid leave."
betsuni
Aug 2024
#20
It's so annoying, which is obviously the point. We're supposed to get real mad.
betsuni
Aug 2024
#33
Right? Have to work really hard not to see. Hand in the face to shut up and if
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#219
Has he acknowledge Harris stands with working class and not just the old white men like Biden
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#61
and any who fail to recognize the close relations between a Bernie ticket and a Biden ticket are
elleng
Aug 2024
#30
Haven't you heard? All this and more can magically come to life "with the stroke of a pen."
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#53
"Status quo" too. Thankfully the buzz-words are disappearing. But "establishment" as an insult lasts forever.
betsuni
Aug 2024
#123
And "rigged". And sadly, that's a word (and a lie) that continues to be used.
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#261
As if health care as a human right, not a privilege was a new idea -- Ted Kennedy said exactly that since the '70s
betsuni
Aug 2024
#157
Ha hahahaha, you have to work real hard ignoring all the information being provided for you
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#220
"Triangulating" ... there's yet another popular anti-Democratic party buzzword.
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#117
"In the end, as their representatives in Washington should have known all along, even those voters
betsuni
Aug 2024
#166
Bullshit, if you remember 2016 that was a HUGE issue in the campaign and many many many of us
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#161
Democrats have a generations-long record of building the will to achieve big goals.
lapucelle
Aug 2024
#140
It IS great to see the Democratic party coalescing around a very progressive future!
Think. Again.
Aug 2024
#48
Obama started it with ACA and has been step by step to get to this point. We GOT here because of
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#163
I believe you're right, to me, your counter seems completely unrelated to my post.
Think. Again.
Aug 2024
#224
Yes... you are right. Thank you for the reminder. The more posting in this thread,
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#229
Sanders has yet to do anything and here he is getting credit for Biden adm, Harris/Walz ticket.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#64
Purity test: compromise and incrementalism is immoral. But that's how government works.
betsuni
Aug 2024
#128
Who was anticipating Republican actions? Republicans are a radical anti-bipartisan 100% obstructionist party.
betsuni
Aug 2024
#159
Build the wall and Mexico will pay. Yes, we have seen it. No I do not want that politician.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#162
That was infuriating! Why would Bernie insult Democrats with such an outrageous lie?
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#76
The foundation of the ideology is that Democrats turned their backs on unions and the working class
betsuni
Aug 2024
#131
I was a delegate to the 2016 National Convention and saw first-hand what happened in 2016
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2024
#108
Well, this certainly explains a lot. The disrespect for John Lewis, Elijah Cummings & Stacy Abrams *
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#116
The Clinton delegates knew that these stunts were coming and that Sanders refused to stop these stunts
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2024
#119
Never forget. So to say today is because of Sanders can well be seen as salt in the wound.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#122
Why do people keep doing this? This isn't the first "let's-give-Bernie-credit" sentiment *
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#75
I personally think 16 was a shit show and I don't want to hear anything about that time.
Demsrule86
Aug 2024
#95
Yes, I have seen the similarity for years. White and male, and protecting status.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#223
Interesting analysis. They have unrealized expectations and hopes that are now manifesting themselves in ways *
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#94
This is not a Bernie ticket -- really? You say that? It is a Biden-Harris ticket
obamanut2012
Aug 2024
#81
Actually Pelosi is who accomplished all this thru the House with her brilliance and
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#86
Bernie has nothing to do with our election this year. Give Kamala and Waltz the credit. They deserve it.
Demsrule86
Aug 2024
#96
I hardly think it is necessary to see the OP as taking anything away from Kamala and Walz n/t
markpkessinger
Aug 2024
#98
How exactly is the Harris/Walz platform different from the Biden/Harris or previous platforms?
betsuni
Aug 2024
#168
While you may feel "refreshed" the words you choose to express it are insulting.
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#170
And it is really short sighted and limited thinking to suggest this is all because of Sanders
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#172
Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with the current election ...it is all Harris and Waltz. They deserve the credit.
Demsrule86
Aug 2024
#114
RIGHT!!!! Geez all love you people that actually do your own thinking and educate self on fact.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#225
Since it was just a week or so ago he got on camera to campaign for Harris said Dem historically
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#111
Indeed we DEMOCRATS are united. And we won't tolerate BS posts that attempt to steal credit *
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#121
Thank you Oopsie for saying it so clearly and loudly. Yes. This is not a tough one
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#124
FDR, JFK, LBJ: liberal Democrats, not democratic socialists. Clinton, Obama, Biden, Harris are liberals
betsuni
Aug 2024
#167
We've had the $15+ minimum wage and tuition-free community college and state university
lapucelle
Aug 2024
#141
Right... I am not going to sit back and allow the rewriting of history to accomodate an ego.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#142
This is a Democratic ticket led by Kamala Harris. Our Party was in wonderful hands
lapucelle
Aug 2024
#138
Kinda sorta of maybe... with we gotta elect her now let me tell you what she will need
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#143
Yep. The GOP calls *everything* radical. And if EVERYTHING is radical, then NONE of it is radical.
Beartracks
Aug 2024
#176
This is a mainstream center-left Democratic ticket. Bernie is a self-described socialist. Dems are not that.
Deek1935
Aug 2024
#177
There you go and Sanders grinnnnnsssss, for not doing shit. And this is why we have to schoo constantly on THIS
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#232
You are the one buying and promoting, they just broadcasted what you are saying, lmao.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#233
But I hear people who watch it, such as yourself, believe it is "invaluable information".
Think. Again.
Aug 2024
#241
Harris/walz are the first presidential ticket wanting to legalize mj
questionseverything
Aug 2024
#208
It took a lot f states and Colorado and then Oregon taking the first steps to this point.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#234
And just getting the people on board, see it is not dire consequence as a matter of
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#265
In the Democratic party, that is not a nation as a whole backing public option
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#270
Exactly. Democratic states and cities raising the minimum wage, legalizing marijuana,
betsuni
Aug 2024
#257
Exactly. So Sanders comes in 2016 and say now we want to go from A to T in a flash,
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#266
No, as a lifetime Democrat I can say the same giving an independent ALL the credit for our Democratic accomplishments,
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#240
Again, your response doesn't seem to have any connection to my post, or even the OP.
Think. Again.
Aug 2024
#242
ya... but you gotta do some thinking in between the two instead of just reading then replying.
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#268
Clue in... your responses are not even in the ball park, hence the exhaustion. lol
LizBeth
Aug 2024
#274
That's nice. But what relevance does it have in this threaded discussion topic?
Oopsie Daisy
Aug 2024
#263