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highplainsdem

(52,031 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 05:04 PM Sep 1

The "quote from Jane Goodall" in the trending "Ladies & Gentlemen, Jane Goodall !!!" thread ISN'T from Jane Goodall [View all]

The thread is here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219409589

I posted a correction in reply 8 there, but I don't know if that mistaken OP will be corrected.

The quote is from Karen Karbo, and the source is an interview done for National Geographic.

What I posted there:

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That quote ISN'T from Jane Goodall, though it's often attributed to her by mistake. It's from Karen Karbo, who
was quoted in a National Geographic article that was mostly an Interview with Karbo after she wrote In Praise of Difficult Women, which was about Goodall, Amelia Earhart and 26 other women.

From that 2018 article:

Meet the ‘Difficult’ Women Who Wrote Their Own Rules
These 29 women weren’t willing to be anything but fully themselves, from Jane Goodall to Frida Kahlo to Billie Jean King.

By Simon Worrall
May 12, 2018


“If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun,” Katharine Hepburn once remarked. So, in honor of Mother’s Day, we have asked Karen Karbo, author of In Praise of Difficult Women, to talk about some of the iconic women that have inspired her, from aviator Amelia Earhart to newscaster Rachel Maddow and National Geographic Explorer Jane Goodall. What links them all is a determination to trust themselves and the courage to break the rules.

Speaking from her home in Portland, Oregon, Karbo explains why Jane Goodall was one of her childhood heroes; why she finds the demands of modern American womanhood such a challenge; and why women are often labelled “difficult” just for being themselves.

Being difficult is usually a negative character trait. But you celebrate it as a virtue. Unpack the paradox for us and explain how it links the diverse women you profile.

There are invisible quotes around “difficult” that don’t appear in the title. Women who are strong, passionate and determined don’t walk around saying, “Oh, look, I’m difficult.” They just believe they’re living their lives. It’s a word slapped on them by other people. If you don’t care too much what people think, you risk being called a difficult woman because you’re not staying in your lane or doing what is expected of you. For the most part, any time a woman doesn’t do that she can be called difficult. When a woman inconveniences somebody she can be called difficult. A woman who believes her own needs, goals, and desires are at least as important as everyone around her risks being called difficult. One of the first reviewers said, “That’s a pretty low bar.” I said, “Thank you for making my point for me.” Because it actually doesn’t take much to be considered a difficult woman. That’s why there are so many of us. [laughs]

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A lot of people have wrongly attributed to that to Goodall, probably because they remember the photo of her with the article.

But as soon as I checked the quote, I noticed that none of the people attributing it to her mentioned a source for it.

So I did a bit more checking and found the quote itself, and the actual source.

Please correct your OP.
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TY for checking these. It should moonscape Sep 1 #1
I agree. The failure to correct is really disappointing - and surprising on this board. Don't usually see highplainsdem Sep 1 #19
Thanks Hekate Sep 1 #2
You're welcome! highplainsdem Sep 1 #20
That's the second false post from that person in the last 2 days. nt Wednesdays Sep 1 #3
When someone's entire "output" Pinback Sep 1 #5
Never blame evil when incompetence is the real culprit WhiteTara Sep 1 #45
Or -- never blame incompetence when evil is the real culprit. nt Wednesdays Sep 1 #49
My thoughts as well JoseBalow Sep 1 #50
Well, this particular one has been all over th internet for a while. RandomNumbers Sep 7 #80
Wow.. another one.. Mahalo for Actually Doing the Research, hpd! Cha Sep 1 #4
You're welcome! Today they also wanted to know where they could buy a Deadheads for Kamala print highplainsdem Sep 1 #7
So Busy.. apparently TOO BUSY! Cha Sep 1 #30
Anything that person posts is suspect. n/t demmiblue Sep 1 #6
They occasionally post something quite interesting, from a good source. But they don't always check highplainsdem Sep 1 #22
That person might not have seen the correctives posted to him/her/them - their latest activity is 432 PM CT progree Sep 1 #8
I sent them email. As I did yesterday, and they ignored it despite being online and posting other OPs. highplainsdem Sep 1 #10
They're back on DU, posted a reply in another thread at 5:43 CT. And now another OP. No reply to highplainsdem Sep 1 #14
Some people just need the attention and Rec's I guess. That post is up to 96 recs now progree Sep 1 #29
This has been happening with this member since they joined. ms liberty Sep 1 #18
Reminds me of some who posted here years ago, and was PPRed back in around 2016. GoCubsGo Sep 1 #26
I've been getting some deja vu vibes about this one, so you may have something there. ms liberty Sep 1 #36
While I seldom reply to them, I want to keep an eye out Hekate Sep 1 #37
This, definitely. ms liberty Sep 1 #41
Unfortunately the "Ignore" function doesn't keep posts off the front page JoseBalow Sep 1 #51
Those who fail to correct their mistakes lose credibility. Honest mistakes become lies when they Mousetoescamper Sep 1 #9
You're welcome! It just saves so much time (and credibility) to check first. highplainsdem Sep 1 #12
"Don't trust everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln Jose Garcia Sep 1 #11
LOL! highplainsdem Sep 1 #13
LOL, me too!! ailsagirl Sep 1 #76
A lie travels around the world before the truth can get its pants on. Fiendish Thingy Sep 1 #15
Me too. Sometimes half my "Latest" page is blank, with all the missing OPs. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #25
Blank? Really? Fiendish Thingy Sep 1 #39
Yes. Probably a difference in formats. It happens on my PC. There are many pages, Scrivener7 Sep 1 #56
Post removed Post removed Sep 1 #16
Huh. What sort of person would be motivated to alert on a correction? highplainsdem Sep 1 #17
Probably in the basis of "interfering with forum moderation." BUT, as noted, there have been calls for help... Hekate Sep 1 #38
Another possibility is the "negatively call-out" part of "No personal attacks or flaming" rule progree Sep 1 #42
We may have to address the issue of sheer volume of posts at some point... Hekate Sep 1 #47
I was correcting misinformation in a post that was getting a lot of recs and replies from people who highplainsdem Sep 1 #55
Yes Hekate Sep 1 #58
Creating an OP to point to an errant post in another thread might be considered a callout by some people progree Sep 1 #72
Post removed Post removed Sep 1 #74
I don't like that outcome either. I don't know how the appeal will go - the forum moderation interference progree Sep 1 #75
I don't see how it's interfering with forum moderation if I point put misinformation in a post. I've been trying highplainsdem Sep 1 #53
I'm on your side and completely agree with you. The query was from someone who seemed... Hekate Sep 1 #59
Thanks! Btw, Rubyshoo is gone. See Scrivener7's post 57 here. highplainsdem Sep 1 #65
TY for the heads-up Hekate Sep 1 #69
Thanks! Btw, Rubyshoo is gone. See Scrivener7's post 57 here. highplainsdem Sep 1 #66
And thanks again for your help x100 moonscape Sep 1 #71
Oh, that's an interesting moonscape Sep 1 #70
Which begs the question: how are we supposed to deal with this issue? Hekate Sep 1 #24
Maybe there needs to be another option when you alert..something like "post is untrue" likesmountains 52 Sep 1 #43
How can you tell when a post/OP has been alerted? chia Sep 1 #28
I got called for jury duty on it. likesmountains 52 Sep 1 #31
Oh, thank you, I thought maybe it was flagged in some way visually. chia Sep 1 #34
If one serves on the jury. n/t demmiblue Sep 1 #32
Thank you! chia Sep 1 #35
Here's a link to the Community Help thread from 7/30 about adding an untrue information category ms liberty Sep 1 #21
Thank you for doing that. Here is the post I just made... Hekate Sep 1 #27
Well said, and echoes my experience too. Thanks! ms liberty Sep 1 #44
Thanks for that link! I didn't see a recent post from you kicking it, so I'm guessing there was a glitch or you highplainsdem Sep 1 #40
Thank you for letting me know my post didn't lol! ms liberty Sep 1 #46
A font of misinformation and non-information. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #23
Thank you for the correction. I rely so much on DU to not only supply facts, but to correct misinformation. chia Sep 1 #33
Thank you! And almost all posts have a little blue box with a twitter link. nt cliffside Sep 1 #48
Thank you for your service! JoseBalow Sep 1 #52
Well, as Jane Goodall said, "In war, the truth is so precious it much be protected by a bodyguard of lies" Bucky Sep 1 #54
Rubyshoo has left the building. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #57
Thanks for the info. Admit moonscape Sep 1 #60
I'm with you. As you previously pointed out, the flood of drivel was burying Scrivener7 Sep 1 #62
Thanks and finally! nt cliffside Sep 1 #61
I feel a sense of relief. Maybe the Admin Gods heard our prayers. Hekate Sep 1 #68
That's the only possibility. MIRT's jurisdiction is for people with post counts less than 100, and forum hosts progree Sep 1 #73
As I said before I put it them on ignore... demmiblue Sep 2 #77
I thought I detected a certain freshness in the air this morning. Pinback Sep 2 #78
It is becoming apparent that we need a "factually false post" category of Alert. LudwigPastorius Sep 1 #63
A big source of it has been PPR'd. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #64
Awesome LudwigPastorius Sep 1 #67
Thank you for this thread LetMyPeopleVote Sep 7 #79
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