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Showing Original Post only (View all)The "quote from Jane Goodall" in the trending "Ladies & Gentlemen, Jane Goodall !!!" thread ISN'T from Jane Goodall [View all]
The thread is here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219409589
I posted a correction in reply 8 there, but I don't know if that mistaken OP will be corrected.
The quote is from Karen Karbo, and the source is an interview done for National Geographic.
What I posted there:
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That quote ISN'T from Jane Goodall, though it's often attributed to her by mistake. It's from Karen Karbo, who
was quoted in a National Geographic article that was mostly an Interview with Karbo after she wrote In Praise of Difficult Women, which was about Goodall, Amelia Earhart and 26 other women.
From that 2018 article:
Meet the Difficult Women Who Wrote Their Own Rules
These 29 women werent willing to be anything but fully themselves, from Jane Goodall to Frida Kahlo to Billie Jean King.
By Simon Worrall
May 12, 2018
If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun, Katharine Hepburn once remarked. So, in honor of Mothers Day, we have asked Karen Karbo, author of In Praise of Difficult Women, to talk about some of the iconic women that have inspired her, from aviator Amelia Earhart to newscaster Rachel Maddow and National Geographic Explorer Jane Goodall. What links them all is a determination to trust themselves and the courage to break the rules.
Speaking from her home in Portland, Oregon, Karbo explains why Jane Goodall was one of her childhood heroes; why she finds the demands of modern American womanhood such a challenge; and why women are often labelled difficult just for being themselves.
Being difficult is usually a negative character trait. But you celebrate it as a virtue. Unpack the paradox for us and explain how it links the diverse women you profile.
There are invisible quotes around difficult that dont appear in the title. Women who are strong, passionate and determined dont walk around saying, Oh, look, Im difficult. They just believe theyre living their lives. Its a word slapped on them by other people. If you dont care too much what people think, you risk being called a difficult woman because youre not staying in your lane or doing what is expected of you. For the most part, any time a woman doesnt do that she can be called difficult. When a woman inconveniences somebody she can be called difficult. A woman who believes her own needs, goals, and desires are at least as important as everyone around her risks being called difficult. One of the first reviewers said, Thats a pretty low bar. I said, Thank you for making my point for me. Because it actually doesnt take much to be considered a difficult woman. Thats why there are so many of us. [laughs]
-snip-
These 29 women werent willing to be anything but fully themselves, from Jane Goodall to Frida Kahlo to Billie Jean King.
By Simon Worrall
May 12, 2018
If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun, Katharine Hepburn once remarked. So, in honor of Mothers Day, we have asked Karen Karbo, author of In Praise of Difficult Women, to talk about some of the iconic women that have inspired her, from aviator Amelia Earhart to newscaster Rachel Maddow and National Geographic Explorer Jane Goodall. What links them all is a determination to trust themselves and the courage to break the rules.
Speaking from her home in Portland, Oregon, Karbo explains why Jane Goodall was one of her childhood heroes; why she finds the demands of modern American womanhood such a challenge; and why women are often labelled difficult just for being themselves.
Being difficult is usually a negative character trait. But you celebrate it as a virtue. Unpack the paradox for us and explain how it links the diverse women you profile.
There are invisible quotes around difficult that dont appear in the title. Women who are strong, passionate and determined dont walk around saying, Oh, look, Im difficult. They just believe theyre living their lives. Its a word slapped on them by other people. If you dont care too much what people think, you risk being called a difficult woman because youre not staying in your lane or doing what is expected of you. For the most part, any time a woman doesnt do that she can be called difficult. When a woman inconveniences somebody she can be called difficult. A woman who believes her own needs, goals, and desires are at least as important as everyone around her risks being called difficult. One of the first reviewers said, Thats a pretty low bar. I said, Thank you for making my point for me. Because it actually doesnt take much to be considered a difficult woman. Thats why there are so many of us. [laughs]
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A lot of people have wrongly attributed to that to Goodall, probably because they remember the photo of her with the article.
But as soon as I checked the quote, I noticed that none of the people attributing it to her mentioned a source for it.
So I did a bit more checking and found the quote itself, and the actual source.
Please correct your OP.
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The "quote from Jane Goodall" in the trending "Ladies & Gentlemen, Jane Goodall !!!" thread ISN'T from Jane Goodall [View all]
highplainsdem
Sep 1
OP
I agree. The failure to correct is really disappointing - and surprising on this board. Don't usually see
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#19
You're welcome! Today they also wanted to know where they could buy a Deadheads for Kamala print
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#7
They occasionally post something quite interesting, from a good source. But they don't always check
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#22
That person might not have seen the correctives posted to him/her/them - their latest activity is 432 PM CT
progree
Sep 1
#8
I sent them email. As I did yesterday, and they ignored it despite being online and posting other OPs.
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#10
They're back on DU, posted a reply in another thread at 5:43 CT. And now another OP. No reply to
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#14
Some people just need the attention and Rec's I guess. That post is up to 96 recs now
progree
Sep 1
#29
I've been getting some deja vu vibes about this one, so you may have something there.
ms liberty
Sep 1
#36
Those who fail to correct their mistakes lose credibility. Honest mistakes become lies when they
Mousetoescamper
Sep 1
#9
You're welcome! It just saves so much time (and credibility) to check first.
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#12
Yes. Probably a difference in formats. It happens on my PC. There are many pages,
Scrivener7
Sep 1
#56
Probably in the basis of "interfering with forum moderation." BUT, as noted, there have been calls for help...
Hekate
Sep 1
#38
Another possibility is the "negatively call-out" part of "No personal attacks or flaming" rule
progree
Sep 1
#42
I was correcting misinformation in a post that was getting a lot of recs and replies from people who
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#55
Creating an OP to point to an errant post in another thread might be considered a callout by some people
progree
Sep 1
#72
I don't like that outcome either. I don't know how the appeal will go - the forum moderation interference
progree
Sep 1
#75
I don't see how it's interfering with forum moderation if I point put misinformation in a post. I've been trying
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#53
I'm on your side and completely agree with you. The query was from someone who seemed...
Hekate
Sep 1
#59
Maybe there needs to be another option when you alert..something like "post is untrue"
likesmountains 52
Sep 1
#43
Here's a link to the Community Help thread from 7/30 about adding an untrue information category
ms liberty
Sep 1
#21
Thanks for that link! I didn't see a recent post from you kicking it, so I'm guessing there was a glitch or you
highplainsdem
Sep 1
#40
Thank you for the correction. I rely so much on DU to not only supply facts, but to correct misinformation.
chia
Sep 1
#33
Well, as Jane Goodall said, "In war, the truth is so precious it much be protected by a bodyguard of lies"
Bucky
Sep 1
#54
That's the only possibility. MIRT's jurisdiction is for people with post counts less than 100, and forum hosts
progree
Sep 1
#73
It is becoming apparent that we need a "factually false post" category of Alert.
LudwigPastorius
Sep 1
#63