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H2O Man

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mental health worker. Pot can and does worsen symptoms in some people with major mental illnesses. There are other cases -- far fewer -- where pot helps keep them stable. "Psychosis" is, by definition, a break from reality, rather than causing a break from reality.

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Marijuana Can Be Harmful To Your Health [View all] qwlauren35 Oct 4 OP

Cool story, bro WhiteTara Oct 4 #1

Did you actually read the article? Ocelot II Oct 4 #6

this part doesn't seem real. WhiteTara Oct 4 #14

The criterion for 'use disorder' includes 'daily use'. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #26

My younger brother has been a daily user for 35+ years. I have seen the effects... PeaceWave Oct 5 #65

Thank you for your honest and frank assessment. Oopsie Daisy Oct 5 #78

My older sister is a major smoker who won't speak to me now kimbutgar Oct 5 #80

perhaps you are biased in your assessment of people? Voltaire2 Oct 5 #83

Maybe but I've encountered that so many times and my assessment has been 100% correct kimbutgar Oct 5 #85

Know what's not a biased opinion? It's an expensive filthy stinky habit... PeaceWave Oct 5 #110

Opinions are by definition biased. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #116

when you smell it on people you know they are addicted? Chautauquas Oct 6 #143

I think that says more about your brother then it says about weed Chautauquas Oct 6 #140

This is a lie Bluesaph Oct 6 #142

That is a whopper of a lie Chautauquas Oct 6 #147

Is drinking one glass of wine a week an alcoholic? Bluesaph Oct 6 #150

facts are not lies quakerboy Oct 8 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author Chautauquas Oct 6 #148

I guess people can be addicted to taking Caribbean vacations Shermann Oct 6 #157

You're arguing just to argue Bluesaph Oct 7 #170

Your observation that I did not define addiction is astute Shermann Oct 7 #171

This is boring Bluesaph Oct 7 #172

What's boring is gaslighting over reefer madness on a forum that strongly supports legalization. nt Shermann Oct 7 #173

You obviously didn't bother to read what others posted Bluesaph Oct 8 #174

"A lot of people are saying it!" - check Shermann Oct 8 #175

Why would anyone spend thousands of dollars a year on Bettie Oct 8 #178

I don't find "doesn't seem real" a compelling argument. Happy Hoosier Oct 15 #187

thanks for your opinion. WhiteTara Oct 15 #188

The problem is people don't know this! Bluesaph Oct 6 #138

So can alcohol You do realize that big pharma want marijuana made illegal. Demsrule86 Oct 8 #180

That's a different article. qwlauren35 Oct 4 #7

It's so harde to take NYT as absolute truth WhiteTara Oct 4 #15

I'm a toxicologist and I find your dismissive response DenaliDemocrat Oct 5 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 5 #54

It Can Cause Hyponatremia ProfessorGAC Oct 5 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 5 #60

There was a high school kid playing football DenaliDemocrat Oct 5 #131

16.7# Of Water! ProfessorGAC Oct 5 #133

This has happened opposite to my sister Bluesaph Oct 6 #145

Now that's an oy vey Lulu KC Oct 6 #167

She ProfessorGAC Oct 7 #169

I am a retired H2O Man Oct 5 #92

Pot itself is known to cause paranoia. LeftInTX Oct 6 #144

Yes, it definitely can. H2O Man Oct 6 #159

I've never touched an illegal drug in my life for your exact reasons. Not for moral ones. lindysalsagal Oct 6 #162

No need to smoke...there are gummies. Again same is true of alcohol. Demsrule86 Oct 8 #182

I know several people who developed psychotic disorders Bluesaph Oct 4 #2

Puhleeze. Maybe we should do more regulation with autos, alcohol, cigarettes and firearms that kill tens of millions ... marble falls Oct 4 #11

No kidding. n/t Hugin Oct 5 #46

Maybe if it occurs with someone you know and love, you'll find it substantive Lulu KC Oct 5 #47

Personal experience can line the path to the anecdotal fallacy instead of the path to truth. Shermann Oct 5 #51

Not quite following you but okay n/t Lulu KC Oct 5 #73

I'll elaborate. Shermann Oct 5 #94

It's not just about marijuana Lulu KC Oct 5 #114

I can't say increased drug-related psychosis isn't a trend Shermann Oct 5 #118

I am not making a case about anything Lulu KC Oct 5 #119

I think increased education is needed. I believe now that the Biden admin finally regulated pot, they can do some real LeftInTX Oct 6 #153

I need to quit pot, which gives me pain relief because a very small percentage just can't be near it ... marble falls Oct 15 #186

To be clear Lulu KC Oct 15 #190

Oh ok. You get to decide what is substantive? Bluesaph Oct 6 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Oct 6 #168

High potency is pricey BidenRocks Oct 5 #23

It's not the high THC level. It has EVERYTHING to do with people who have issues w/certain types of The_REAL_Ecumenist Oct 5 #24

Lol nope obamanut2012 Oct 5 #41

Most research indicates instead that people Voltaire2 Oct 5 #45

I can let you know .... Mossfern Oct 5 #66

cannabis AND ALCOHOL eShirl Oct 5 #79

Notice I said Mossfern Oct 5 #106

My next-door neighbor, Ilene, k55f5r Oct 5 #93

exactly. Perhaps once it gets descheduled those studies can happen. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #99

What would happen is regulation that big Pharma wants...I want the government out. Demsrule86 Oct 8 #183

"concern" noted RJ_MacReady Oct 4 #3

Sez them. marble falls Oct 4 #4

AMA: Marijuana doesn't impact brain function Ptah Oct 4 #5

Of the 120 who initially qualified for the study, those with Cannabis Use Disorder or daily use of cannibis Ms. Toad Oct 5 #17

An actual evidence based study. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #27

Whatevs LW1977 Oct 4 #8

Yep. DU's regularly scheduled foray into reefer madness mode BannonsLiver Oct 5 #20

NYT has been Prohibitionist for a long time. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #32

Do not forget, boys & girls, that in some cases, peanuts KILL! Attilatheblond Oct 5 #82

Whoa I must have missed the peanut wars! BannonsLiver Oct 5 #95

Same story RussBLib Oct 4 #9

I love my MJ jfz9580m Oct 5 #21

It's not a black and white issue. multigraincracker Oct 5 #33

I have a complicated history with marijuana jfz9580m Oct 5 #39

thanks for your contribution RussBLib Oct 5 #89

Thanks for reading RussBLib :) jfz9580m Oct 5 #98

Until a month or so ago I was taking 2 puff before bed for sleep. multigraincracker Oct 5 #91

I am glad it is legal! jfz9580m Oct 5 #103

quality is very uneven RussBLib Oct 5 #111

In all my years working in mental health, I've seen very few cases where marijuana helped my patients. tulipsandroses Oct 4 #10

Nothing is safe for everyone. Lawn darts, anyone? marble falls Oct 4 #12

People think it's medicine. Mosby Oct 5 #18

FDA review womanofthehills Oct 5 #55

Very Common ProfessorGAC Oct 5 #63

Here's an article about neuropathic pain Mosby Oct 5 #68

Thanks for a balanced response jmbar2 Oct 5 #84

consuming an excessive amount can cause strong discomfort and paranoia. and remember when it took a whole msongs Oct 4 #13

So the good news is a very small amount is sufficient. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #28

Right? obamanut2012 Oct 5 #42

In my day the paranoia orangecrush Oct 6 #163

Interesting, but, like alcohol, it will remain a spectator sport for me. DFW Oct 4 #16

Why anybody ever smokes is sort of a mystery Shermann Oct 5 #96

I like a little spicy DFW Oct 5 #129

Gosh! H2O Man Oct 5 #19

If I had some I couldn't use it without fainting. littlemissmartypants Oct 5 #22

as soon as I read something like this, I know it's BS eShirl Oct 5 #25

Well it's true if you select the weakest possible Voltaire2 Oct 5 #30

we had so much good 70's & 80's weed going around here, nobody bothered with the ditch weed eShirl Oct 5 #34

Tell me about it! jmowreader Oct 5 #37

Tell me about it! jmowreader Oct 5 #38

You can get extracts that are 85-90% thc now Mosby Oct 5 #70

'hash oil' started showing up in the early 70s. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #100

Forgot about hash. Mosby Oct 5 #104

It wasn't hash, which has been used for centuries. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #117

It is so strong orangecrush Oct 6 #164

That just means you'd have smoked 20 times as much of the weak stuff. nt Shermann Oct 5 #120

I use everyday. usedtobedemgurl Oct 5 #29

CHS is an allergic reaction to cannabis. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #31

agreed; that is no joke eShirl Oct 5 #36

It didn't point that out, which I also noticed obamanut2012 Oct 5 #43

My son has CVS. You wouldn't believe the abuse he's suffered. nolabear Oct 5 #48

Back to prohibition it is! aocommunalpunch Oct 5 #40

And yet... jcgoldie Oct 5 #44

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding.nt jfz9580m Oct 5 #49

Water can kill you too Mysterian Oct 5 #50

jail doesn't solve any of those problems PedroXimenez Oct 5 #52

For me to make an informed decision, MorbidButterflyTat Oct 5 #53

That's the spirit! jfz9580m Oct 5 #76

It's the THC levels in the stuff. This is NOT the MJ of the 1960s. valleyrogue Oct 5 #56

My vape is 92% THC and my tincture is 96% THC padfun Oct 5 #86

Aw come on. Spoken like someone who hasn't a clue about the culture at all. And it has been studied to death. flying_wahini Oct 5 #57

I came of age in the 70s -misanthroptimist Oct 5 #58

Well, that's when I smoked it. Side effects: paranoia, out of body feelings (like very heavy legs), sleep disturbances LeftInTX Oct 5 #135

We get patients with hyperemesis syndrome ismnotwasm Oct 5 #61

Yup, Marijuana Can Be Harmful To Your Health, so can republianmushroom Oct 5 #62

I agree and rec. Demsrule86 Oct 8 #184

It was more fun when it was illegal. kentuck Oct 5 #64

Not if you got fined or sent to jail cutroot Oct 6 #161

I'm jealous of you all who find cannabis a pleasant and useful drug. hunter Oct 5 #67

Written by someone living in a van, down by the river. flvegan Oct 5 #69

At age 72 I've never used marijuana, never will. I don't need it. n/t elocs Oct 5 #71

how did you manage to get through the 60's and the 70's without getting stoned? Voltaire2 Oct 5 #88

There are people who undergo security clearances who have not ever smoked it. LeftInTX Oct 5 #136

Conservative religious beliefs can be dangerous to the health of non-believers and generate mental illness. Discuss. PufPuf23 Oct 5 #72

And only a month before the election. Prairie_Seagull Oct 5 #74

What? Recommending that people self moderate THC is an "election thing"? LeftInTX Oct 5 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Oct 6 #139

I don't think it's really a Democratic thing anymore LeftInTX Oct 6 #141

Many want to see full throated support for de-listing. Prairie_Seagull Oct 6 #151

I'm not that crazy about delisting it. LeftInTX Oct 6 #154

I absolutely think it should be delisted. Demsrule86 Oct 8 #185

Too much marijuana can be harmful to your health. Well duh! So can drinking too much water. retread Oct 5 #75

Just one of the scare stories Blue Full Moon Oct 5 #77

"...it's not well studied..." Wednesdays Oct 5 #81

But we will publish a long - comments blocked - article that acts as if it is authoritative. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #87

Constantly inhaling any type of smoke is not good for people Polybius Oct 5 #90

Health benefits, Cannabis Abuse Disorder and the connection to psychotic breaks can all be real ThreeNoSeep Oct 5 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 5 #102

Whoops! I meant mg not g ThreeNoSeep Oct 5 #107

Okay that makes more sense jfz9580m Oct 5 #109

Cause or effect? hunter Oct 5 #113

Certainly more thought should be given... LAS14 Oct 5 #101

Your son brought it obamanut2012 Oct 5 #121

It's clear it belonged to my son. We both just think the boys found it at home. LAS14 Oct 5 #122

What is bad for your health is a xanax perscripstion that becomes an addiction sky_masterson Oct 5 #105

They scoff at us stoners while sipping their martinis. Voltaire2 Oct 5 #123

I've smoked Pot for 40 years sky_masterson Oct 5 #125

You have to watch it, just like with alcohol. gulliver Oct 5 #108

Exactly Mossfern Oct 5 #112

correct...EVERYTHING in moderation democratsruletheday Oct 5 #124

Next bombshell report GenThePerservering Oct 5 #115

I should have died a long time ago, I guess. Maybe I have the Keith Richards gene? That's okay I guess. I'd get along brewens Oct 5 #126

I don't disagree with the premise. alarimer Oct 5 #127

So can oxygen. Conjuay Oct 5 #128

Haven't smoked in a long time awesomerwb1 Oct 5 #130

High doses it says. I don't think hardly anything is healthy in high doses. nt Quixote1818 Oct 5 #132

This looks like it was written to manufacture consent for pharmaceutical companies to take over... LudwigPastorius Oct 5 #134

Some people need to mind their own damn business. Emile Oct 6 #146

Reminder maryland native Oct 6 #152

Prohibition has always been about race and class. Voltaire2 Oct 6 #156

Indeed jfz9580m Oct 6 #166

We're not going back to the Nancy Reagan days Tarc Oct 6 #155

Many other countries regulate and control the levels Bev54 Oct 6 #158

very few other countries have legalized recreational cannabis Voltaire2 Oct 6 #165

Fascism is a lot worse for my health orangecrush Oct 6 #160

Reefer Madness again? Thread trashed ZonkerHarris Oct 8 #176

Reefer madness 2.0 Runningdawg Oct 8 #179

Never had a problem with it and never will DFW Oct 8 #181

I didn't see it that way. pwb Oct 15 #189

I'm sharing a gummy with my husband as I read this thread. crosinski Oct 15 #191