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niyad

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41. While I can understand your perspective, I see other sides as well. EVACUATE!

Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:06 PM

Oct 6

Okay, I have no car, no close neighbors, no way to leave, no money for accomodations, assuming there are any.. GO TO THE SHELTERS!! But they are not taking pets, and I will not leave my baby. EVACUATE!!! Aassuming that I do have a car, and resources, and my baby, about the last damned place I want to be is on the road with hundreds, or thousands, of panicked, frightened, maybe hysterical, people.

And here is a flip side for you. During the Waldo Canyon Fire, the fucking "geniuses" running this city screwed up in multiple ways, including NOT ORDERING THE FUCKING EVACUATION of a housing area with one main road in and out, and lying about where the damned fire trucks were, until way too late. Two people died, hundreds of houses destroyed, lives torn up, because the assholes in charge were busy fighting their testosterone turf wars instead of promptly and completely dealing wiith the fire.

So before you, and other first responders (and Goddess bless and keep you all) "judge harshly", think about what decisions people have to make with whatever resources might be avaiilble to them, and also think about just how effective, competent, and trustworthy the community officials are. Mine are incompetent hacks in thrall to developers, and I don't believe them if they say the sun rose in the east this morning unless I witnessed it myself.

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Hurricanes. I've been through them, I've also been a relief worker. Here is what I wish more people knew. [View all] Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 OP

Thank you for this post. yardwork Oct 6 #1

Yes, the PTSD is horrific for sure. SheltieLover Oct 6 #2

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Oct 6 #3

Yes, x 10000 lark Oct 6 #4

As a retired first responder, I absolutely say those who ignore evacuation orders should be judged harshly RAB910 Oct 6 #5

I'm not talking about mandatory areas. Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #7

There was no evacuation order in the mountains. yardwork Oct 6 #10

I remember the NHC and/or NOAA warning repeatedly in the days before the storm hit land, that LauraInLA Oct 6 #46

Severe rain and flash floods aren't that uncommon in WNC. yardwork Oct 6 #48

The majority of people who "ignore" evacuation orders generally have pretty solid reasons for not evacuating. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 6 #13

Exactly Farmer-Rick Oct 6 #29

I have never evacuated from a hurricane. I had 3 cats and 7 birds. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 6 #49

I'm really glad you made it through safely! LauraInLA Oct 6 #50

You asked for an explanation MyMission Oct 7 #64

Thanks for the info Farmer-Rick Oct 7 #66

Amen to that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #16

When 4 hurricanes hit central Florida Keepthesoulalive Oct 6 #17

The folks who think 21 million people can leave a peninsula within 48-72 hours are shockingly stupid. Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #22

You have to live thru Keepthesoulalive Oct 6 #28

While I can understand your perspective, I see other sides as well. EVACUATE! niyad Oct 6 #41

Excellent post. Thanks. underpants Oct 6 #6

I vividly remember hurricane Hugo. llmart Oct 6 #8

No words Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #18

Another Perspective modrepub Oct 6 #9

You may not be aware that the worst hit area from Helene was 600 miles away. yardwork Oct 6 #12

Mountains Are Extremely Flood Prone modrepub Oct 6 #15

Your take on this is not helpful. yardwork Oct 6 #23

Respect the floodplain!! MyMission Oct 6 #54

Good advice soandso Oct 6 #57

It may have been like a Tsunami DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #30

Your facts are wrong in several places. yardwork Oct 6 #34

Thank you DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #37

The rest of your post is mostly opinion yardwork Oct 6 #39

New article from AP DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #51

I didn't see a link in your post. yardwork Oct 6 #53

Go to DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #55

I know. I'm in Durham, NC and my son lives in Asheville. yardwork Oct 6 #58

Asheville is the largest city in this region of NC MyMission Oct 7 #63

A great OP malaise Oct 6 #11

What about if DownriverDem Oct 6 #14

Everyone should make decisions based on their own circumstances and needs. Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #20

The lies are working - they're turning us against one another. yardwork Oct 6 #25

True. Every region on earth has its climate hazzards. wnylib Oct 6 #44

I remember that bomb cyclone blizzard. yardwork Oct 6 #59

I am near Buffalo, but far enough inland wnylib Oct 6 #60

where should people move to avoid natural disasters?? cally Oct 6 #45

Bravo! Life is NOT a movie! Girard442 Oct 6 #19

KnR. n/t iluvtennis Oct 6 #21

Thanks for this post, Pacifist Patriot. This is so important for people to understand. BComplex Oct 6 #24

It's been almost twenty years since I've been on the ground as a relief worker. Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #26

My most intense experience in a hurricane was in 1966, the year we lived on Key Biscayne across the causeway from Martin68 Oct 6 #27

The news never mentions the stench. So many Florida homes have septic tanks, Native Oct 6 #31

That, rotting garbage, molding plywood, people unable to bathe, decaying flora and fauna..it's bad. Pacifist Patriot Oct 6 #32

To say nothing of the DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #38

Alicia taught me some lessons. ananda Oct 6 #33

I always say that as far as a fun and exciting experience is concerned... Towlie Oct 6 #35

Living through a hurricane or even a strong tropical storm is no fun LetMyPeopleVote Oct 6 #36

Thank you Wild blueberry Oct 6 #40

KNR plus a gazillion. THANK YOU!!! niyad Oct 6 #42

Thank you. PTSD after a disaster, natural or otherwise, is real. CDC has a national Disaster Distress Helpline, Timeflyer Oct 6 #43

Wonderful post soandso Oct 6 #47

Thank you for the very analytical write-up of the impact of a hurricane. Very graphic and informative. SWBTATTReg Oct 6 #52

During Hurricane Harvey I had a family member say - "just leave now" TBF Oct 6 #56

Thank you for posting this Lulu KC Oct 6 #61

This is what we needed to read Mira Oct 6 #62

That's a great and timely post PP canetoad Oct 7 #65